Ed Fries

So so you can sometimes not get as close to what you, you know, aspire to with someone like Chrissy Kidder, unless you're there witnessing

you're kind of embedded in there and seeing it on the day by day but you know good for like I love that like you could take something like subject matter that might or might not be interesting to a lot of people but then you find the drama in it and like it becomes like a real page turner because it's just you know you get down to the human element what's going on behind the scenes all of that that's crazy yeah Who deserves more credit? Speaking of Xbox, going back to Xbox, who deserves more credit for Xbox than they get? I know you've talked about Ed Fries a little bit.

Is there

someone? One thing that's interesting is that many people feel like they didn't get enough credit.

They were not going to cancel it.

And so they played a critical role.

Ed Fries had to make the games for it, and he had to set aside what was mostly a PC gaming budget and create this brand new set of Xbox games.

And had he and some of his people working for him not found Halo...

And so Ian was a great, um, option for that, of course, 'cause of the introduction I just, uh, gave, and, and there's so much to talk about there.

So what we're gonna do, as we've done, um, once before with Ed Fries, is talk to Ian.

I'm gonna shut up here in a second, and we're gonna talk to Ian about five games that influenced him and his career over the years.

And really, you know, and we're gonna hear those stories, and through those games, the lens of those games, we'll, we'll hear about what, what Ian's career has been like for him.

I, and it's probably all around the room.

Uh, we didn't have...

I kind of wish we had had Ed Fries on, on video when we were, when we, uh-

Oh, yeah

And that's where your coaching has been super impactful.

The other conversation was with Ed Fries.

Ed is a games industry veteran, one of the first people to work on games at Microsoft, now runs a venture capital firm called 1UP, where they invest explicitly in gaming content.

And he asked me two questions.