Ed and Lorraine Warren

They'd already tried their priest, so they reached outside their parish to a married couple from Monroe, Connecticut.

Their names were Ed and Lorraine Warren.

If you've seen a Conjuring movie, you know the Warrens.

By 1980, they were the most famous ghost hunters in America, mostly on the strength of the Amityville case, a Long Island haunting they'd attached themselves to in the 1970s that became a best-selling book and a hit film.

They were not clergy.

Neither of them had any medical or psychiatric training.

Ed called himself a demonologist, a title with no schooling or license behind it.

Lorraine called herself a clairvoyant.

They'd already tried their priest, so they reached outside their parish to a married couple from Monroe, Connecticut.

Their names were Ed and Lorraine Warren.

If you've seen a Conjuring movie, you know the Warrens.

By 1980, they were the most famous ghost hunters in America, mostly on the strength of the Amityville case, a Long Island haunting they'd attached themselves to in the 1970s that became a best-selling book and a hit film.

They were not clergy.

Neither of them had any medical or psychiatric training.

Ed called himself a demonologist, a title with no schooling or license behind it.

Lorraine called herself a clairvoyant.

Yes, multiple, multiple times.

I remember being at Ed and Lorraine Warren's Occult Museum that's out in Connecticut.

And those who have seen The Conjuring or know of the Annabelle doll, that kind of made news last year with some different headlines

there.

And I'm like, well, no wonder why I opened myself up to this and I wasn't under the blood.

So I had many, many encounters with the demonic, for sure.

I mean, I'm quite familiar with Ed and Lorraine Warren and have met and interviewed people who were trained by them.

I mean, they're very famous for some of the spaces they've opened up in terms of paranormal study.

So I like to hope that...

The evil is contained, as the Warrens would say, to that one section of my brain, and it doesn't spread to other parts of my verbal skills.

I think it will.

Well, I survived the tape after seven days, you know, when I was younger.

They started their own little mini artifact room.

Yeah.

I do appreciate, though, that I think the internal logic within the Conjuring universe is good here because as we see in Annabelle Comes Home, which we'll talk about in the next episode, when they first bring Annabelle into their home, the Warrens, that is, They have a priest bless her.

And then they're like, that's not good enough.

His name is Chris McKennell.

He is the grandson of legendary paranormal investigators Ed and Lorraine Warren.

Has spent over 40 years investigating the world's most notorious supernatural phenomena, from hauntings to demonic possessions.

As the founder and director of the Warrens' Legacy Foundation for Paranormal Research, Chris continues his fam- family's iconic legacy, bringing a fresh, engaging perspective to the paranormal.

His extensive global experience and unique blend of quantum physics, uh, psychology, and cultural anthropology make him a compelling author in the field.

A seasoned speaker and media personality, Chris's captivating storytelling and expertise has made him a sought-after guest, uh, for television programs and documentaries exploring the unknown.

Never ever had anything to do with it.

Why do you think that is?

The museum confirms that the chair arrived there in 1978 after the landlord of the Busby Stoop Inn asked that it be removed

Oh, the Warrens should have taken that to their museum.

They-

That would've been perfect

Yeah, well, Annabelle was only, um, a problem-

Since the '70s?

... from, like, a couple of months, wasn't it, before the Warrens got hold of it and nearly died in a car accident that nobody saw? Sorry, that was my outside voice yet again

[laughs] Has anyone sat on the Annabelle doll? [laughs] I like that ending.