East–West Schism

There is a formal break, and it ostensibly is over a doctrinal issue.

In 1054, there's what they call the Great Schism.

This is, you know, the first real divide in the church is 500 years before the Protestant Reformation.

But this was really just more of a, they just grew apart because of speaking different languages, and there were surprisingly few people who spoke both Greek and Latin.

It's deeply Christian.

because it's so Catholic that the popes and the tradition which grew into Christianity grew there before even the East-West schism of 1054, and more stuff grew into the Western practice of Halloween between 1054 and 1517.

In other words, this predates Protestantism, people.

Here's the thing, man.

So I mean, I think everyone is, you know, Catholic and Orthodox speaking here.

You know, we know the history with the split of the Great Schism, right? So you had the, you know, Eastern Roman, Eastern Orthodox Church kind of rising.

You had the Western Roman Church in Western Europe.

But what I try to say from the book and the issue of Greek identity, it really goes back to the Byzantine Empire and how the Greek nation state formed.

Because, you know, that term accretion, it began to gather to itself more and more notions of power, authority, and jurisdiction.

So by the time you get to the great East-West schism in 1054, which is before the popes were claiming to be the vicar of Christ, It's still Vicar of St. Peter at that point, but the popes are claiming a kind of imperial universal dominion over the whole church, which they hadn't done originally.

So there's been a growth.

The title's the same, but the growth in the conception involved in that title just expands and expands and expands.

Okay, but that just as Newman, okay, would say that, you know, you read the Church Fathers and all of a sudden you find yourself being Catholic because there is nothing of Protestantism in the Church Fathers.

The Church Fathers come from the time when the Church was won, even before the Great Schism.

Also, the rapid growth of Christianity for Tertullian says an honest intellect, and I quite like this, okay, like the idea of the honest intellect, right? Okay.

So I do very, very well in IQ tests on numeracy and verbal reasoning.

You might've guessed that that's not what happened.

We have the 1054, the great schism.

where the Catholic church and the Orthodox church broke apart.

And each of them had a rummage sale.

Okay, Catholics.

Fast forward 500 years.

Great schisms happened.

By the way, that didn't heal to like the 1970s.