East Ham

That's the east side of London.

There is also an East Ham, if you didn't know that.

Anyway, West Ham...

That's a waffling, aren't I?

Where were you living around this time? Sorry? Where were you living?

At that time, I was living in East Ham.

Okay.

In East Ham, London.

Yeah.

And I had a little trio down there.

And in those days, you know, if you was an outsider to going to the East Ham, they didn't like you.

And worst of all, if you were black.

I imagine it was Stratford because I grew up in East London.

Yeah, so I grew up in East Ham and Forest Gate and the only big shopping centres that were around was Stratford Centre.

This was before they had the Westfield, long before Westfield, the old Stratford shopping centre.

So I imagine it was there because I can't think of where else we would have been that had a shopping center.

I had a naughty glint, I'd say.

Describe where you lived.

I lived in East Ham.

In a flat, in a house? In a house, yeah.

east a lot because of church.

We literally had to travel from Fulham to like East Ham.

That's where Congolese come in.

Yeah, Congolese come in.

Was it the north or east? So see all them areas, East Ham, Barking, that's where the Congolese people.

What's that road they want to talk about? West Green Road, is that it? That's North

London.

So we moved to London and we lived in Lewisham.

And I was teaching in a secondary school in East Ham, which was really tough.

It was just at the time that the Asian families were thrown out of Uganda.

Oh,

She was not, as it is widely reported, the last person tried for violating the Witchcraft Act.

That seems to be Jane Rebecca York of Forest Gate in East Ham, who was tried in late 1944, also in the Old Bailey, in the same court and with the same prosecutor as Duncan had been.

Apparently, what got York in bad enough trouble to face charges under the Witchcraft Act instead of the Vagrancy Act included impersonating Queen Victoria.

Although she was convicted, York was not jailed because of her age.

Right.

Whereas this lot have taken the opposite approach where they've got a couple of reviews in process, one from Stephen Timms, who's still MP for East Ham.

He was MP for East Ham.

And the other from Alan Milburn, who's a very big new Labour figure, been around for a long time, very serious.

They are between them going to actually sort of set out a plan to deal with the welfare system.

Like you said, I grew up in East London.

East Ham.

East Ham.

East Ham.

East Ham.

Now she's national auditioning for a role in EastEnders.

That's what I'm saying.