Earl of Carlisle

The new Parliament met February 15, 1835, and as the new government came into power by defeating the Whigs on the subject of the Irish Church, it was bound to offer some remedy for the trouble which existed.

Accordingly, Lord Morpeth, the eldest son of the Earl of Carlisle, and closely allied with the Duke of Sutherland and other great families, agreeable, kindly, and winning in his manners, and of very respectable abilities, on June 26th introduced his tithe bill, by which he proposed to convert the tithe itself into a rent charge, reducing it to a lower amount than the late Whig government had done.

His bill, however, came to nothing, since any appropriation clearly dealing with surplus revenues failed to satisfy the Lords.

Before anything could be done with Ireland, the Peel ministry was dissolved, and the Whigs returned to power April 18, 1835, with Lord Melbourne again as Prime Minister.

Witness the Earl of Kelly, Annandale, etc.

Nay, that great getter, the Earl of Carlisle, also, and some private gentlemen as Gideon Murray, John Achmody, James Bailey, John Gibb, and Bernard Lindley, got some pretty estates, not worthy either the naming or envying that old servants should get some moderate estates to leave to posterity.

but these and all the scots in general got scarce the tithe of those english getters that can be said did stick by them or their posterity besides salisbury had one trick to get the colonel and leave the scots but the shell yet cast all the envy on them he would make them buy books of fee farms some one hundred pounds per annum some one hundred marks and he would compound with them for a thousand pounds which they were willing to embrace because they were sure to have them pass without any control or charge.

And one thousand pounds appeared to them that never saw ten pounds before, an inexhaustible treasure.

Dunbar only had his agents and could play his own game, which they does not cross.

So was the poor king and state cheated on all hands.

And now did a contention arise between the English and Scots about the election of a favourite, out of whether nation he should come, now was montgomery in the wain being given more to his own pleasures than to observe the king so that alway the earl of carlisle did invest him in his room he as soon by his neglected carriage did divest himself yet was he ever in the king's good opinion and one that he put more trust in at the time of his death than in all his other servants then was there a young gentleman master robert carr who had his breeding in france and was newly returned from travel a gentleman very handsome and well-bred, and one that was observed to spend his time in serious studies, and did accompany himself with none but men of such eminences as by whom he might be better.

This gentleman the Scots so wrought it that they got him into a groom's place at the bedchamber, and was very well pleasing to all.

an anniversary feast as great as it was possible for the king's preservation ever on the fifth of august upon which day as sir john ramsay after earl of holderness for his good service in that preservation was the principal guest so did the king grant him any boon he would ask that day

but had such limitation

set to his asking as made his suit as unprofitable unto him as that he asked it for was unserviceable to the king and indeed did make the english believe as little the truth of that story as the scots themselves did and yet on my conscience the good gentleman did in that as a liar often doth by telling a lie often believeth it to be a very truth but the truth was although he was not a man capable of much itself yet had it been true there was too little done for him being not true too much for being an earl he was in very little esteem either with his master or with a better sort of courtiers and i pray god that the effects of those sermons in the father's time for that service cause no ill effects or be not one cause of god's anger towards us in the son's reign this sir george hume being the only man that was the guider of the king in his affairs All the wiser sort of English made their addresses unto him, amongst those Sir Robert Sissel, a very wise man, but much hated in England, by reason of the fresh bleeding of that universally beloved Earl of Essex, and for that was clouded also in the King's favour.

He came to York, but lay close, unseen, or scarce known to be in the city, until he knew what entertainment he should receive from the King.

for he was in his own and all men's opinions so under the hatches as not ever to appear above board again, nor did any of the counter-faction to Essex besides himself ever attain to the King's favour.

He had great parts, was very wise, full of honour and bounty, a great lover and rewarder of virtue, and able parts in others.

So they did not appear too high in place or look too narrowly into his actions.

The next that came on the public theatre in favour was Henry Howard, a younger son of the Duke of Norfolk, and Lord Thomas Howard, the one after Earl of Northampton, the other Earl of Suffolk, Lord Chamberlain, and after Lord Treasurer.

He married the daughter and heir of the Lord Denny, after the Earl of Northumberland's daughter, and was hated of none that I ever heard of, but the Earl of Northampton, who had no patience to see him, being himself of so venomous and cankered a disposition that indeed he hated all men of noble parts, nor loved any but flatterers like himself.

Yet it was a great question whether he hated the Earl of Carlisle or Sir Robert Mansell most, by whom he hath been heard to say, Body of God, I will be content to be damned perpetually in hell to be revenged of that proud Welshman, and did so hate him that he kept an inquisition on him seven years to prove that he had cousined the king of fourteen thousand pounds, which at the seven years' end, at an hearing before the king, the lords, the queen, and all the ladies being present, with all the gallantry of the court, ended in one pair of silk stockings, given by one for a new year's gift to Master Wells, Sir Robert Mansell's servant.

At which the king stood up and sware very deeply.

Do you believe I will take a pair of silk stockings for my fourteen thousand pounds? Give me that, give me that.

It is most true that many Scots did get much, but not more with one hand than they spent with the other.

Witness the Earl of Kelly, Annandale, etc.

Nay, that great getter the Earl of Carlisle also, and some private gentlemen as Gideon Murray, John Achmote, James Bailey, John Gibb and Bernard Lindley got some pretty estates, not worthy either of naming or envying, that old servants should get some moderate estates to leave to posterity.

But these and all the Scots in general got scarce the tithe of those English getters that can be said did stick by them or their posterity.

Soho Square and Covent, or Convent Garden, were then the residence of the aristocracy.

Thus, in the Spectator, Steele, the writer of the second paper, tells us that Sir Roger de Coverley, a baronet of good fortune and ancient family, lived in Soho Square, which is in the immediate neighbourhood of Seven Dials, and a spacious house now occupied by Mr. Hayes the dentist still retains on its facade its name, Carlisle House, having been, a century or more since, the residence of the Earl of Carlisle.

In the gardens, where now stands a statue of Charles II, were the effigies of four river gods and a fountain which was destroyed because a little boy was drowned while playing there.

The neighbourhood was also occupied by stately mansions, some remains of which still exist in Gerrard Street.

Thus, in the Spectator, Steele, the writer of the second paper, tells us that Sir Roger de Coverley, a baronet of good fortune and ancient family, lived in Soho Square, which is in the immediate neighbourhood of Seven Dials.

And a spacious house, now occupied by Mr. Hayes the dentist, still retains on its facade its name, Carlisle House, having been, a century or more since, the residence of the Earl of Carlisle.

In the gardens, where now stands a statue of Charles II, were the effigies of four river gods and a fountain, which was destroyed because a little boy was drowned while playing there.

The neighbourhood was also occupied by stately mansions, some remains of which still exist in Gerrard Street.