How would you describe what elemental sorcery is?

Ooh, yeah.

Well, um...

Well, it's kind of a play on words I'm doing with the title of the book, Elemental Sorcery, is on one hand, it is dealing with the elements of fire, water, earth, air, and spirit.

These five elements, we'll dive into those specifically and how those tie into everything.

But those five elements have been found throughout many traditions and throughout the ages as being the... baseline of our entire our entire reality but then also i'm giving through this a structure for sorcery how how magic actually works how to work magic how to craft your own spells how to call spirits all because all it's all one field of um an etheric field that you're operating within and uh and so um these elements well let me actually let me go back let me go back to the back to the very first civilization, back to Samaria and Babylon, they started to use the symbol of the pentagram.

And for them, it was marking space.

forces are working in cahoots it's not like they're independent forces it's like we somehow in some very magical way these two forces were working with each other and not opposites well i guess in a way but it's like this i see like a toroidal force we're working with each other to to blend our energies and our powers we work like it's how do i put this man it's such a it's so difficult to describe like i see images you know and i try to bring those images into words sometimes it's a little tough but i see these like two opposing forces that seem opposing but are really just working together to i think again create something new yeah

So my question is, to what extent are like some Goetic presences interchangeable with deities in the Hindu pantheon? Are they completely separate pantheons? Or can one read Lilith and Hakate as like different names or different cultural responses to the same energy that we would call Kali? Do you feel they're the same entities or are there nuances? Well,

so I think it's the same energy The same archetypal energy is manifesting as different people, as different entities.

I think people get really into the weeds when they start saying, oh, yeah, you know, Satan is also Shiva, and that's also this god, and that's also – no, no, no, no, no. Shiva is Shiva.

Satan is Satan.

It's important that we treat them as the beings that they are.

But they have a similarity.

There is clearly similarities between Satan and Shiva.

So I like it as that kind of

i think that's part of the path though right and that is in some way the right hand path is escaping the zoo ascendance or transcendence and then would you say maybe you come back into the zoo a different person right you utilize what you learned from the ascent and then you bring it into the world

yeah absolutely um if you can try to grab onto something as you're on your way back you know what i mean by this is um In higher transcendental states or in deep, deep ritual states, you'll usually be so high or so deep that your mind goes away and everything just kind of disappears and you're floating in beautiful nothingness.

On your way back or on your way into that place, there are all kinds of interesting visions you can encounter, the voices of deities that might speak to you.

And if you're paying attention, you can pick up messages.

And so whether you're Casting a spell to make something happen, summoning a spirit or even just going for a soul travel or just dropping mind.

Try to come away from it with a message, a message of some sort.

I mean, sometimes I'll come away with it.

Take your time.