Was this a goal that you always had in mind, or is this something that came to you and it just, you know, brought your career to new heights?

I mean, I think there's so many chefs where it's like, you know, to get on Top Chef is just, like, a dream come true.

But, like, I don't even think I dreamt that hard or that high, 'cause it just seems like, oh my God, like, you know, one out of s- like, 15 chefs a year, like, how many chefs have been on the show? Like, hundreds out of millions of chefs that we have.

Um, and so when they had reached out to me, it was like last year was an incredibly crazy year, but I'm like, I can't say no to this.

Like, I can't, like, not do it.

And so I just went through the entire interview process being like, look, if I get selected, I'll figure it out then.

And then I did, and I was like, okay, like, we're, we're doing it.

Wow.