Dustin Ortiz

I feel like there were some other, like, was it heavyweights or somebody that wanted to do it? I feel like we, I remember we had other people do it, and I was like, "Bro, you don't understand how big and dangerous these bulls can be." [laughs]

I will say, uh, and I don't know if he still is, uh, Dustin Ortiz, remember he went and did-

... like PBR.

I guess he, he did the PBR team thing, which I, I don't know, I guess the team series is maybe...