Duncan Bannatyne

Portugal is.

You and Duncan Bannatyne had a Barney as well this week, didn't you? The Scottish guy who backed Brexit, who then pissed off to Portugal.

You know, this is coming onto your question list.

You know, I think as long as they just keep reframing the narrative, they seem to be able to get away with whatever they want.

I'll end just with a story, and it's not the uplifting one you perhaps want, but it just points out this challenge.

There's a man called Duncan Bannatyne.

You might have seen him.

He's on Dragon's Den.

I felt bad with what they were doing to her mum because she had...

But also, when her mum spoke out, and I don't know if you saw Duncan Bannatyne this week, this is a shift in culture.

This is a shift in the o- in the open window that celebrities are now speaking.

Yes.

And for the ...

Obviously, we'll all be familiar with Dragons' Den and Duncan Bannatyne and those other people that, that offer their expertise for a certain amount of equity in the business.

That's just what you're talking about there, isn't it?

Exactly that.

And I can't remember what they all said or what advice they all gave me.

But the one that always stuck with me was Duncan Bannatyne's.

Because I read his book and I remember reading it thinking, well, there's nothing special about him.

He's not brains of Britain.

It's not going well, is it? But then something really, really interesting happens.

One of the dragons, Duncan Bannatyne, tries to help the entrepreneur.

He tries to help him explain the finances to other investors.

And rather than dig his heels in and say they're all wrong, this entrepreneur accepts his help.

And, you know, starting a business, being a big part of that.

And I read Duncan Bannatyne's autobiography.

And it just, it had me completely gripped for two, three days.

And I think it just kind of, maybe gave me a bit of realisation of like, yeah, I really want to start a business.