Duke Law Journal

So that article tries to sort of pull all that out to say this turn toward ordinary meaning is not really that complete and tries to tease out why.

Uh, the second piece I have coming out is an essay in the Duke Law Journal called The End of Ambiguity in Statutory Interpretation, and it's an essay that talks about this idea that for decades the court has used an ambiguity threshold to trigger the application of canons, and it is cons- uh, increasingly moving away from that and just applying these interpretive presumptions at the top of the inquiry without finding ambiguity first.

Um, my view is that's a very different view, again, of separation of powers in the court-Congress relationship.

Instead of asking, "Did Congress leave us space?" The court is saying, "We have a policy norm that we care about, and we're gonna impose it." And I think that's a shift, an important one, uh, worth documenting, and that's what that essay tries to do.

It's a terrific article.

It'll be out in the Duke Law Journal this coming year.

So for all of our listeners, keep your eyes open for this.

I wanna thank our guests today, David Freeman Engstrom and Nora Freeman Engstrom.

But his name is Arthur Leff, L-E-F-F.

And Arthur Leff wrote an article for Duke Law Review years ago.

And you can find it online.

Typically, the article is titled something like Says Who?, S-E-Z says who.

And she has published numerous articles and essays about lethal injection over the last decade.

Her work has appeared in the nation's top law journals, including the Stanford Law Review, University of Pennsylvania Law Review, and Duke Law Journal.

Lane graduated summa cum laude from the College of William and Mary in 1992 and received her J.D. from the University of Virginia in 1996, where she was elected to Order of the Coif.

She clerked on the Tenth Circuit and then was a prosecutor for three years before joining the Richmond Law Faculty in 2001.

And I think there's real promise and real perils around that.

So I've written a couple of papers, one's called modeling through and Duke Law Journal and the others coming out shortly from theoretical inquiries, and it's called quantum bureaucracies.

So I will hand it over to Margo.

Before that, I'll just mention that, Ryan, we had a discussion on this not too long ago on your new book.

And if there's more awareness of that, then we have to come to terms with, oh yeah, what is it that actually makes everyone matter? That's not easy to ground outside of a theistic framework.

In fact, you quote a famous article in the Duke Law Journal from 1979.

Arthur Leff had a famous article.

This is on page 17 of the book, Gavin.