So tell me, before we start anything, for the two decades before 2020, how was your corporate life? What did you learn from there? And what did you decide to do what you're doing today?

Wow.

So I got into corporate life because in my youth I was in retail and it was a grind and I did not like it.

And I was actually a department manager at Toys R Us.

Okay.

Yeah.

And it was miserable.

Okay.

So where do you start with, uh, with a new client who comes to you and is experiencing a lot of the things that we've just been talking about and, and perhaps a, a sense that, "Well, I've got to this stage in my life, 40s, 50s, I might be successful at, at work, but I don't feel at my best." What is the, uh, from your perspective, the best starting point to, to regain that energy and that youthfulness that so many people seek at, in middle age?

Yeah.

I'm a big fan of baby steps.

I love very subtle changes to lifestyle, um, but that incrementally increase.

And so, uh, for example, I used to have...

I, I f- I have a program, a wellness transformation program called The Superhuman Blueprint, so I named my podcast after the program.

It started out as a 10-day transformation, and it was a massive failure because you can't transform in 10 days.

... that you've been doing the podcast that perhaps you didn't appreciate before? In other words, what, what kind of energy do you get from people that helps you?