
Drew Cameron
HVAC sales and marketing strategist; founder/CEO of Flow Odyssey and president & co-owner of Energy Design Systems, advising home services contractors.
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Jun 7, 2026
Stop Selling Equipment and Start Selling Outcomes
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Drew CameronGUEST
The equipment is just parts, right? They're bigger part-- the biggest parts, and they're the most expensive parts, but they're just parts.

Drew CameronGUEST
They're no more important than the PVC, the gas piping, the electrical, the condensate pump, or anything else that we put in, right? You've been made, as contractors, to believe that that's the case.

Drew CameronGUEST
You may believe it and it might be true for you, but it's just not accurate, right? The reality is, is you have your former colleague and coworker, David, uh, Richardson over at National Comfort Institute, and he put a system in years ago.

Drew CameronGUEST
And I remember a story he wrote in, uh, Contracting Business Magazine where the customer came back after the fact, and he basically said, "Hey, we're gonna make things comfortable, more energy efficient throughout the, you know, the house." And he put the system in, did what he was supposed to do, did exactly what he sold to the customer, what the customer was buying, but the customer came back and said they weren't happy.

Drew CameronGUEST
And they went out and they checked the whole entire system and the operation of the system, and everything was functioning and performing the way that it was supposed to, but the customer still complained about comfort in the kitchen and the master bathroom.
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Stop "Box-Swapping" HVAC Systems w/ Drew Cameron.
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11:57EverettHOST
And I don't want to get that call back because they're going to say on that 105 degree day that it's not going to cool.

Drew CameronGUEST
Well, what we're seeing out there is it's a combination effect, right? And I didn't know this until 2008.

Drew CameronGUEST
So I had long since sold my business, left my business, left the utility, left service experts when I got into Airflow through National Comfort Institute.

Drew CameronGUEST
So in your market there in Dallas and Oklahoma, all the duct work is basically in the attic.
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56:00EverettHOST
So you could tell that one is fine.
