But before we dive into that, give us a little bit of background on you, like your experience and how you got here.

Yeah, I was born in Korea and I moved to the States at a very young age at two, grew up in Chicago.

I had a love for cooking, definitely did some of the culinary arts stuff in high school.

And then, you know, as I was getting towards college, I had a decision to either go to business school or go to culinary school and I didn't want to sit behind a desk.

So I said, Hey, let's go to culinary school.

And here I am sitting behind a desk 15 years later or 20 years later, but went to culinary school.

And of course at the CIA, they're known for their wine curriculum, which is at the time was a three week course.

But yeah, are you checking in with the person that's running that program? Are you looking at the data? Is it a culmination of all that stuff? How do you even start to dissect that? I mean, it must be a really interesting puzzle to decode, right?