Doug Peterson

Well, that experience is not the same as somebody who's going to go cruising and has to live with their boat and maintain it and want to have good reliability.

So at this time, would you have said you were a yacht designer or would you have said you were a project manager with the concept? Because people like Doug Peterson and other guys helped you, didn't they, with lines plans?

Yeah, so we went to—it was way more efficient for me to pay somebody to draw the lines plan than it was for me to do it.

They do a neater job of fairing them.