Doug Fields

That's obviously what both of you talk about a lot.

At Homeward, we have this Refreshing Your Marriage conference, and we often will say, would you be willing to give your spouse 1% of your time? In fact, knowing you, Ted, and Doug Fields, who speak, he probably stole that idea from you, but we do that, of course.

We say, this isn't easy.

Raise your hand.

Josh Griffin had like a blog called More Than Dodgeball, and it had some resources and stuff on there.

Doug Fields had some resources on his own, but it wasn't like it is today.

And so their games are like dirt cheap.

They're like five bucks.

The fifth one, obviously books cost money.

So this is a slight cost, but I put these in the category of, yes, I would want to read these if I was a and longevity in my youth ministry career.

One of them I did read early on, and that was Purpose Driven Youth Ministry by Doug Fields.

I think it just gives you a great framework to know what is actually important in youth ministry when you could do a million things, right? Youth ministry really has no lid.