Yeah.

I, I love that because it, it presents the humbleness of recognizing that we aren't superior.

We, we aren't without problems.

We aren't people who don't need counsel ourselves.

Um, as, as I studied biblical counseling and I started counseling, what you recognize is, um, you're speaking to yourself as much as you're speaking to the other person.

And, um, it's helped me grow in so many different ways.

It's hard to, it's hard to kind of pinpoint one.

Mm-hmm.