Donny Cates

Except that Eddie remembers all this stuff.

He's like, even Dylan, my son that they retconned that I have, that was a major player in my entire run, especially the Donny Cates period, because Donny Cates invited him.

He's fine.

He'll be fine without me.

carnage.

Wait, when was that? It was actually part of, oh, who's the fellow? Donny Cates, is that

his name? Donny Bates.

Donny Cates.

Who has an unfortunate face.

Yeah, and I was following everything he was writing, self-published and otherwise, and his Marvel stuff was really cool.

I think you've written everything you've drawn.

Um, I worked with Donny Cates, um, and I worked with Caitlin R. Kiernan on, uh, Alabaster: The Good, the Bad, the Bird.

Okay.

And that's about, uh...

So it's like 10 years ago or something like that.

I met him and Donny Cates.

And... you know, me and Matt, you know, we, we just like kind of hung out with them for all, you know, it's just like after the show and just, just like talking a lot and just joking around.

And, and so he's like such a cool guy and, you know, it's just, I, and the stuff that he's written, I just have a lot of respect for him.

Didn't put that in there either, but this was so much.

um but uh donny cates uh and jeff shaw

god country

yeah

dude when i read this in its serial form it was just so good i could not wait for each issue to come out um and donny cates just he put together a really good story um and having jeff to draw the book was just really freaking yeah it it was good if you don't know what this book is about i'm not going to tell you i just it's an honorable mention you have to go out there and read it you will not be disappointed but there's big huge talking swords and these freaking titan things that come out of nowhere um yeah awesome stuff that's my honorable mention all right my number uh i did i did sort of like a new pick A newer pick, like later pick, an older pick, and then a moderate timeline pick.

So my newest pick, which will be like the latest thing that's out right now, that just had me, you know, in awe.

Yeah,

Definitely worth checking out.

I think his stuff is so, the depth that he brings to stories and the sort of like literary knowledge that he puts forward while maintaining a really compelling genre story often is such a trick that he's able to pull off.

know i think like um you know donny cates uh is is a is an incredible like innovative uh writer um you know i i think we've taken from all over alan moore and you know all the classic guys um and i think especially in kind of thinking of like the mythology we wanted to build those sorts of guys are people we've been looking at mike winola and stuff like that

yeah i mean For me, I didn't really get into comics until college, I will say, or late high school.

Before that, I would pick up this and that at an airport or at Kroger or whatever.

Never showed up.

There were a bunch of rumors that, like, Donny Cates was going to take over writing him.

Yep.

That Neil Gaiman was supposed to.

Old Man Hellboy.

He did, uh, Doctor Strange with Donny Cates.

That was a while ago.

He did-

One last thing I will say selfishly for this.

I just, the whole ultimate universe in itself, I was personally selfishly a little disappointed that we did not get Donny Cates in for at least one story of not a title, like just one, a short story, anything.

Because for people who don't know Donny Cates in his Thor run or no, the Venom run, excuse me, really is the one who set up this whole ultimate universe and the maker and all that.

So I always was kind of holding out and hoping that he would be involved a little bit with something.

So that's another kind of knock for me on the ultimate universe.

And again, that's just personal.

I'm a fan of Donny Cates, obviously been on a hiatus for a while.

So, you know, maybe it's personal things, but I personally would have liked that a little bit more.