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Sep 13, 2026

speaker_7GUEST
48:34
They have letters back and forth between the two.
speaker_7GUEST
48:37
And St. Marcellinus, as a Roman official, was part of a council that was attempting to bring peace to the factions between the heretical Donatists on the one hand and faithful Catholics on the other hand.
speaker_7GUEST
48:51
St. Augustine himself was also present at this council.
speaker_7GUEST
48:55
Marcellinus, as the official imperial representative, had to make a decision of who he was going to rule in favor of, and he ruled in favor of the faithful Catholics.
speaker_7GUEST
49:06
The Donatists were absolutely furious.
speaker_7GUEST
49:09
They refused to accept this ruling.
speaker_7GUEST
49:12
And what did they do? They rioted.
Steve GuerraHOST
26:04
Constantine had absolutely no time for splinter groups or groups that would upset the apple cart in any way.
Steve GuerraHOST
26:11
Miltiades had hosted a council in Rome at the Lateran Palace that declared Donatism a heresy, but the Donatists appealed that decision to Constantine.
Steve GuerraHOST
26:23
The Lateran Palace was one of the buildings Constantine had given to the church after he conquered Rome.
Steve GuerraHOST
26:30
Part of Constantine's deal was that he restored properties back to the church, and on top of that he gave a great deal of additional property and assets to the church.
Steve GuerraHOST
26:50
Constantine also donated the land in the Vatican neighborhood for St. Peter's Basilica.
Steve GuerraHOST
26:57
All Eusebius says is that Constantine ordered Miltiades to attend the council at Arles, not lead or convene or anything like that, just attend the council.
Steve GuerraHOST
27:09
The council condemned Donatism again, and that was that for the Donatists.
Steve GuerraHOST
27:14
They would hang around, mostly in North Africa, but they wouldn't be a force after this and would disappear after the Islamic conquests a few hundred years later.
Nick HolmesHOST
7:55
Not surprisingly, when those who'd renounced Christianity wanted to rejoin the church, there was considerable hostility towards them, and this came to a head in AD 315, when the Bishop of Carthage, called Donatus, refused to allow lapsed clergy to rejoin the Church.
Nick HolmesHOST
8:16
His viewpoint was rejected by the Bishop of Rome, and the bishops were split between those who supported Donatus – hence the name the Donatists, and those who didn't.
Nick HolmesHOST
8:30
When the Bishop of Rome asked Constantine to decide who was right, Constantine was flattered and saw an opportunity to make himself head of this rapidly growing new religion.
Nick HolmesHOST
8:45
And in AD 325, he followed up on this with the Council of Nicaea, which was the first council of the entire Christian church.
Zac DavisHOST
26:12
And I...
Zac DavisHOST
26:13
It's a little tongue-in-cheek, but I think that this impulse in Christianity to try to do the most intense thing or the most pure thing or the smallest or most restrictive thing, we see it come up again and again and again, whether it's Donatism or Jansenism or traditional Latin mass communities today, some of them.
Zac DavisHOST
26:33
I think it's really dangerous.
Zac DavisHOST
26:34
I think one of the things that the church has tried to say again and again that like, yes, this is important.
Brian ThomasonGUEST
27:15
which one of the things that distinguishes them from a lot of the other peoples of the time frame.
Brian ThomasonGUEST
27:19
And when he was in charge of the West, there was a thing called the Donatist controversy.
Brian ThomasonGUEST
27:23
Do you know what that is?
Dave ButlerHOST
27:25
It's a
Dave ButlerHOST
27:28
Yeah.
Brian ThomasonGUEST
27:28
Do you know what? Do you recall?
Dave ButlerHOST
27:30
So the Donatist position is that my baptism or my ordination as priesthood is dependent upon the worthiness of the person who did it.
Dave ButlerHOST
27:43
And so unworthy priests sever the transmission of divine authority.
WilliamHOST
44:07
And you don't think, you didn't think we were going to do a show on papal supremacy in the first 400 years and forget optatus, did you? I don't think you did, did you? Or maybe you did, but we're here at optatus and the Episcopal chair was first given to Peter.
WilliamHOST
44:27
Around 8367, St. Optatus of Miletus is attacking the Donatist schism.
WilliamHOST
44:35
You know, you better get your act in order.
WilliamHOST
44:37
We need to establish real unity.
Cy KellettHOST
24:07
Right.
Braden CookGUEST
24:08
Uh, and then there was another, there was another controversy with the Donatists, um, questioning the-
Cy KellettHOST
24:12
Oh, yeah
Braden CookGUEST
24:13
... validity of baptism administered outside of the Church or by unholy ministers and things like this, and you kind of see this in St. Cyprian as well, uh, who was rebuked by St. Stephen- But those are the only two I can really think of that were very explicit, uh, and, and there, there was a, like, an explicit disagreement in.
David RonaldNARRATOR
66:51
For concerning arguments negative, taken from human authority, they are here proved to be in some cases very strong and forcible.
David RonaldNARRATOR
66:58
They are not in our estimation idle reproofs when the authors of needless innovations are opposed with such negatives as that of Leo.
David RonaldNARRATOR
67:06
How are these new devices brought in which our fathers never knew? When their grave and reverend superiors do reckon up unto them, as Augustine did to the Donatists, large catalogues of fathers wondered at for their wisdom, piety, and learning, amongst whom for so many ages before us no one did ever think so of the church's affairs as now the world doth begin to be persuaded.
David RonaldNARRATOR
67:28
Surely by us they are not taught to take exception hereat because such arguments are negative; much less when the like are taken from the sacred authority of Scripture, if the matter itself do bear them.
David RonaldNARRATOR
67:39
For in truth the question is not whether an argument from Scripture negatively may be good, but whether it be so generally good that in all actions men may urge it.

19 MINS LATER

David RonaldNARRATOR
86:32
Yea, but we doubt what the will of God is.
David RonaldNARRATOR
86:35
Are we in this case forbidden to hear what men of judgment think it to be? If not, then this allegation also might very well have been spared.
David RonaldNARRATOR
86:43
In that ancient strife which was between the Catholic fathers and Arians, Donatists and others of like perverse and froward disposition, as long as to fathers or councils alleged on the one side, the like by the contrary side were opposed.
Ed HumpalNARRATOR
66:28
For concerning arguments negative, taken from human authority, they are here proved to be in some cases very strong and forcible.
Ed HumpalNARRATOR
66:35
They are not in our estimation idle reproofs, when the authors of needless innovations are opposed with such negatives as that of Leo.
Ed HumpalNARRATOR
66:42
How are these new devices brought in which our fathers never knew? When their grave and reverend superiors do reckon up unto them, as Augustine did to the Donatists, large catalogues of fathers, wondered at for their wisdom, piety, and learning, amongst whom for so many ages before us no one did ever think so of the church's affairs as now the world doth begin to be persuaded.
Ed HumpalNARRATOR
67:04
Surely by us they are not taught to take exception hereat, because such arguments are negative.
Ed HumpalNARRATOR
67:10
Much less when the like are taken from the sacred authority of Scripture if the matter itself do bear them.

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Ed HumpalNARRATOR
84:54
Yea, but we doubt what the will of God is.
Ed HumpalNARRATOR
84:57
Are we in this case forbidden to hear what men of judgment think it to be? If not, then this allegation also might very well have been spared.
Ed HumpalNARRATOR
85:05
In that ancient strife which was between the Catholic fathers and Arians, Donatists and others of like perverse and froward disposition, as long as to fathers or councils alleged on the one side The like by the contrary side were opposed.
Mark GrahamGUEST
19:54
Okay.
Mark GrahamGUEST
19:54
One is just called the novationists or the novations.
Mark GrahamGUEST
19:57
The other one is the Donatists, uh, which is, uh, another, these are just easy to, these are easy to do some research on these, uh, but the, uh, the Donatists and, um, Both of these groups are trying to, I would say, square their ideals of classical perfectionism with Christianity.
Mark GrahamGUEST
20:15
They're trying to see a church that, okay, if the classical world, with its perfect symmetry, with its beautiful statues, whatever, there's a perfectionism, I think, that's inherent in the ancient classical world, be it Greek or Roman.
Mark GrahamGUEST
20:28
And I think what we see in North Africa is really a strong attempt to hold so tightly onto that idea or ideal of perfectionism among Christians.

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