Don Van Natta Jr.

Dude, not just that.

ESPN had Ramona Shelburne and Don Van Natta and somebody else running a story being like, "Hey, we actually, what we're hearing is that the NBA has nothing and this is gonna die." And then, you know, a month later it comes out that, like, that story's totally wrong.

So not only have they just gotten rid of all of the apparatus, the, the programs, the people who staff the programs, the, the, the media folks who, who do the work, they got rid of all of those, and then they have people on their roster hostile to the idea that there's anything to look at.

And not only that, they're, now you've got some of your prominent journalists running interference with fake leaks.

[laughs] All right, the next question here that we, uh, that we come from here, uh, actually on the subject, MadGreek21 asks: "Did the ESPN article in August that claimed that the Clippers were innocent change your perspective on Ramona as a journalist?" Ramona Shelburne as a journalist.

I, her and Baxter for that matter, and Don Van Natta Jr.

Like, they're ha- I, I was always kind of skeptical of, of Shams 'cause I, I just think he's kind of shameless on, on some of the stuff.

Ramona, like, look, I've, I've never spoken to Ramona personally.

I was friendly for a little while with, with Baxter Holmes, he was really nice to me early on in my career, um, when he was on the Lakers beat and when I was, like, starting out and covering the Lakers.

Um, we have kind of lost touch because he's obviously no longer on that, on that beat.

And I have no respe- no relationship whatsoever with Don Van Natta Jr.

So, like, zero experience or, or background on that guy.

It's Jay Weir from the Discord chat.

I would love to hear your detailed thoughts on the Don Van Natta defense of his ESPN article.

Appreciate you.

I didn't think his defense was very strong, [laughs] I have to be honest with that.

Play it again.

Hey, Adam, it's Jay Ware from the Discord chat.

I would love to hear your detailed thoughts on the Don Van Natta defense of his ESPN article.

Appreciate you.

Right.

Um, but as far as the media angle of it, did you catch Don Van Natta's statement?

Oh my God, that was, that was even more pathetic than the initial, like, the, that, the defense of the, "Well, actually, you know, on these specific points." It was, it reminded me of, like, when a defense attorney knows their client's guilty and they have just a shit case, but they gotta make the best argument possible.

[laughs]

Mm-hmm

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Shams Charania, and Don Van Natta Jr." And then, um, and then he would, like, then you go back and you look, and Shams, A, never, like, addressed his, his initial reporting, um, on this or his supposed reporting.

I don't know.