Don Mann

From now on, it's your well thing, and I'm gonna give you, I'm gonna give you the end note because it's way cooler, and it makes more sense, and that's good shit.

And talking about, you know, not having to do it every day, I don't know, do you know Don Mann by any chance? Career Navy SEAL, fricking climbs all the mountains-

Right

... and runs, does all these ultramarathons.

Yeah.

So anyways, um, kind of went through various paths and, um, ended up at a paramedic magazine, met Don Mann of Guitar Player magazine at a magazine seminar, and that opened my door into the guitar.

I, you know, I was reading, even up to that point-

Mm

We started on soil and food in our last segment, and we end in the other American underground.

deniably or deniable airplanes white house sanctioned black work and a story official washington has spent 60 years trying to file undersettled ralph pazulo grew up in embassy houses vietnam latin america the whole foreign service circuit ap correspondent capitol hill More than 30 books, Jawbreaker with CIA officer Gary Bernstein, Seal Books with Don Mann, Haiti, Somoza, a podcast built on people who actually went through the door.

His new one is Deep Cover, Shallow Graves, written with William Robert Tosh Plumlee.

Contract pilot, CIA cutout, the kind of man who collected aliases the way other men collect frequent flyer miles.