Don DeFore

... and multiple different kinds of ribs because you were trying to figure out which version was the most like the original, and I got to try those.

From Don Defore's Silver Banjo.

Oh my gosh.

That only existed in the late '50s for like two years.

What?

Starring Victor Moore, Don DeFore, and Gale Storm as the titular it happened.

And where did it happen?

New York City.

Wouldn't, wouldn't multiple hearts be better? I mean, really.

Well, in 1945, uh, Paramount did a movie called The Stork Club starring Betty Hutton, Don DeFore, and Barry Fitzgerald.

And if you remember Barry Fitzgerald, he was the, uh, the trainer of Seabiscuit in the movie Seabiscuit.

Uh, a sort of a k- uh, uh, a very nice ol- uh, slightly older Irish, round Irish gentleman.

He forced the stars to come down to earth and sit at the breakfast table like regular folks.

Look at the 1965 log featuring actor Don Defore and his daughter Penny.

Penny had been working in a Korean orphanage, which was tied to the release of the movie Battle Hymn that her father had starred in.

Now, in a standard Hollywood interview, this would be a glossy, highly rehearsed exchange of talking points.

Everybody touched everything, but like Carly was doing this incredible research and unearthing these things that I had never heard of, that I, I literally had no idea that these even existed or like the way that some of these came about.

Like when we were talking about Don Defore's Silver Banjo Bar-B-Que, which is a restaurant I did not know about, um, we were, like we were talking about it, and all of a sudden there's this...

They, so they like lost the license to the barbecue sauce that they had been sourcing, and they tried to recreate it a- and they went to like a flavor lab at UCLA to try to, to identify the molecular components to try to make their best guess at that recipe.

So it, like, the, like the crazy backstories of how these things happened.

I think it was fine for me.

I had issues with some of the other actors playing his compatriots, particularly Don DeFore, the guy who's obsessed with finding his overweight wife and who gets very disappointed when she's thin now because probably deprivation.

But that man is American.

That man is aggressively American.

Yeah, he just...

Maybe that was the Southern California feel that he might have had there.

Yeah, and Don DeFore as Butcher especially.

Like, are we supposed to think it's cute or funny that he's so attached to his fat wife?

Riverville.

But wasn't that Don DeForest barbecue over there at one point, Jerome? It was what? Wasn't it that Don DeForest silver banjo barbecue? Something in that area? Yeah.

Yes, that was there as well, but that was the original Pancake House, the Aunt Jemima Pancake House, when it first opened.

When the park first opened, that's what was there.

And she got the role in this film, Romance on the High Seas, with a great cast, by the way.

Jack Carson, Janice Page, Don DeFore.

And she was given the song, It's Magic.

which was nominated for two Academy Awards in 1948.