Doctor of Education

[upbeat music] Brains in Motion with Mary McCone, Ed.D. and Angela Zielinski, DPT.

Please remember that this podcast is for entertainment purposes only.

This is not medical advice, and this is just general discussion for educational purposes.

wrapped up now.

Well, I guess an EDD, educational doctorate in education, but it's to say, yes, it was a lot of work.

And it's amazing that I'm sitting here today and could tell you that I have finished both.

Yeah.

And man, does that just light my fire, and I'm so passionate about that.

Yeah, I think that's one of the cool things about exercise science professors in general, and obviously this isn't a blanket statement, but at least in my experience getting my undergraduate and my graduate degree, um, a lot of teachers in the exercise science space, especially at the P- EdD and PhD level, have practical hands-on experience.

Like, they've gone back like you later on because they have a passion and a love for teaching, but they worked hands-on in the field for a long time, and that's not always the case with other degrees, right? They...

There's a lot of psychology PhDs that actually, uh, never do clinical work.

Like, you can actually talk about, "Oh, these are some of the real-world experiences I've had, and I had this client with diabetes, and I had this professional CrossFit athlete, and I had this, you know, IFBB pro that I worked with." And it just adds so much authority, um, especially to somebody who's young, who's, who's wanting to get into that field.

So I think that's, that's awesome.

So you get your EdD.

Are you planning on moving somewhere in Ohio? Is that, like, you'll figure it out when you get there so you can be closer to-

But then also, how can you go just a little higher level when you're thinking about purchasing to make sure that the messaging is healthy for the profession?

Once again, Becky Mosser, RVT, MPA, Ed D candidate, just brings it home succinctly.

Thank you so much for that.

That was beautifully said.

Brains in Motion with Mary McCone, Ed D., and Angela Zielinski, DPT.

Please remember that this podcast is for entertainment purposes only.

This is not medical advice, and this is just general discussion for educational purposes.

you

gave us so much incredible information.

Some of it might be very unfamiliar and that's okay because sometimes you need to hear something a hundred different ways before you're able to really make the connections like sometimes hearing it on a podcast and then you'll hear it again in a class and then you hear it again during a treatment session and all of this is just another way to look at the brain to to become familiar with these terms that not everybody talks about and so i just really appreciate you mary of thank you for for teaching us and and for everyone listening It's okay if you understood 50% of it, because...

Me too! Hahaha!

The short version is lots of parts of the brain are involved in vision.

But can you talk about how you made that decision to do a DrPH? So for those of you listening, there's, you know, your traditional PhDs, there's a DrPH, which is a Doctor of Public Health.

You have the EdD, which is a educational doctorate, and then you have something like a DCN, which is a Doctor of Clinical Nutrition.

So a lot of options on there.

Why did you choose the public health route?

[laughs] So I'm just getting started.

I'm in my first year of the, um, EdD program out in Marymount University.

So it's, um, an educational leadership and organizational, uh, like, innovation.

Might not be the exact, but it's like, yeah, a mix of all those words.

Her growing interest in linguistic phonics and speech to print approaches has led her to explore how reading instruction can be better aligned with what cognitive science tells us about how the brain learns.

Dawn is currently pursuing her Ed.D. in the science of learning at Gordon College, where she continues to connect research in learning, memory and neuroscience with practical classroom instruction.

Dawn, I'm so happy you're here.

Thank you so much.

So along this time, I went back to school and got my master's degree in literacy education.

And, you know, that has kind of brought me to my current role as a reading specialist for Plainville Public Schools, as you said, where I'm primarily working with students in grades three through six.

And now with you, I'm working toward my Ed.D. in the science of learning.

And it sort of feels like it's bringing all of my pieces together with psychology and special ed and literacy in the classroom.

Now, that was the very first thing that made me bristle because a lot of the criticism I hear about CPD is that it's not very widely available, that it's not always accessible.

A part of my, my EdD...

I, I promised myself that I would get through this show without mentioning my thesis, and I don't know why I thought that because we're talking about CPD.

Um, but a big part of my EdD thesis is about CPD and kind of how language teachers perceive the CPD that they've received, what kind of CPD they want.

And a lot of the feedback that I've been getting, a lot of the, the responses that I've been hearing in interviews that I've conducted has been that generally CPD is not very accessible.

Um, if we know it exists, then we can't do it because it's too expensive or because our school won't give us the time to go out and do it.