Doc Pomus

Deep.

And he didn't go deep into it, but he said, you know, he did say, "This is the guy that was at Atlantic after Leiber and Stoller," 'cause I knew the Leiber and Stoller story, and I, I know Mike, and, you know, Doc Pomus was basically my uncle, you know, so that, uh, that whole thing.

But when I heard about Bert, and I saw, and I think we can all share this, our fa- you know, from our fathers, we would hear about people that were in our fathers' orbit or that they worked with directly-

Right

[laughs] Other than that, you know, you didn't have too much trouble.

Well, how about the, the trouble that Doc Pomus would cause? [laughs]

Oh, Doc Pomus was such a sweetheart.

Oh, my-

Of course.

In my mind, I still thought that I was solo, that I was doing all of this on my own, and I realized I had a companion through a lot of that, and I had somehow edged him out.

So many of the stories that, uh, I write in the book about people like Doc Pomus, about, you know, Big Joe, about Tim Hardin, are edged-

Yeah

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