DNB Carnegie

That helps, of course.

Yeah, and maybe also see these examples, you know, internally in the NBA as well, because I guess you sometimes hire people, you know, junior analysts, and you see who sort of progresses and actually becomes better and better.

And like you said, maybe that drive and that natural interest is something that you see sticks to the people who actually build careers.

Yeah, I would say so.

Very good.

So just some final, let's say, call them quickfire questions about different types of questions, hopefully some fun questions as well.

I had the chance to see the DMB shipping conference.

I think you moderated quite a lot of different panels.