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Discounted cash flow

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Oct 29, 2026

Aswath DamodaranHOST
77:22
So let's say there's a 60% chance of approval.
Aswath DamodaranHOST
77:25
Both the option value and your DCF value would have to be adjusted for that 60% chance of approval.
Aswath DamodaranHOST
77:33
Let's close today by just bringing this all together.
Aswath DamodaranHOST
77:35
So let's say I ask you to value a pharmaceutical company.
Aswath DamodaranHOST
69:57
Investment banks price IPOs because they have to take these companies public at that price.
Aswath DamodaranHOST
70:03
And if you look at a company like Twitter, I don't care what the DCF value is.
Aswath DamodaranHOST
70:07
And that's why when the offering price was set at 26 and I got called saying, well, what do you think about bankers doing? They have a very different job than I do.
Aswath DamodaranHOST
70:16
I was valuing the company.

7 MINS LATER

Aswath DamodaranHOST
77:09
Private company valuations, where the transitions are going to happen, those transitions will be worth, as you go through those transitions, if you look at two companies, one of which you expect to make transitions to VC and public, the company that makes the transitions will be worth more than a company that you don't expect to make the transitions.
Aswath DamodaranHOST
77:26
I know some of you are valuing private businesses.
Aswath DamodaranHOST
77:28
And when you turn the initial DCF, I allowed you to use a public company cost of capital.
Aswath DamodaranHOST
77:33
You might want to go back and finesse that a little bit.
Dan PassarelliGUEST
20:01
This took me literally months to, you know, to code and to get just right.
Dan PassarelliGUEST
20:09
There's a lot of, I mean, you can find DCF models out there But honestly, like, believe me, I'm not trying to toot my own horn or anything, but there's a lot of crap out there.
Dan PassarelliGUEST
20:21
To really do this right, it incorporates many, many, many data pieces that are hard to find and expensive to get.
Dan PassarelliGUEST
20:33
And so, yeah, I created a very, very elaborate and very accurate one, but it's still not useful for all stocks.
Dan PassarelliGUEST
21:27
Yeah, the thing's like a million dollars or something.
Dan PassarelliGUEST
21:29
So they do a lot of financing.
Dan PassarelliGUEST
21:33
And so when there's a lot of financing and there's a lot of cash sitting there, DCF models won't work with that.
Dan PassarelliGUEST
21:40
They also do have a hard time modeling a lot of growth stocks.
Dan PassarelliHOST
20:01
This took me literally months to, you know, to code and to get just right.
Dan PassarelliHOST
20:09
There's a lot of, I mean, you can find DCF models out there But honestly, like, believe me, I'm not trying to toot my own horn or anything, but there's a lot of crap out there.
Dan PassarelliHOST
20:21
To really do this right, it incorporates many, many, many data pieces that are hard to find and expensive to get.
Dan PassarelliHOST
20:33
And so, yeah, I created a very, very elaborate and very accurate one, but it's still not useful for all stocks.
Dan PassarelliHOST
21:27
Yeah, the thing's like a million dollars or something.
Dan PassarelliHOST
21:29
So they do a lot of financing.
Dan PassarelliHOST
21:33
And so when there's a lot of financing and there's a lot of cash sitting there, DCF models won't work with that.
Dan PassarelliHOST
21:40
They also do have a hard time modeling a lot of growth stocks.
Aswath DamodaranHOST
7:59
You're saying, what is that even going to mean? Let me start out with a couple of start of the class questions as to see where this is going to take us.
Aswath DamodaranHOST
8:07
So in a DCF valuation, you take expected cash flows, you discount them back at a consolidated cost of capital, you come up with the present value, you get the value of the business.
Aswath DamodaranHOST
8:16
In asset-based valuation, you value the pieces of the business.
Aswath DamodaranHOST
8:20
So let me make this very specific.
Aswath DamodaranHOST
8:22
I could take Disney, project out the cash flows for Disney as a company, discount back at Disney's cost of capital, and value Disney, which is the way I've approached DCF so far.
Aswath DamodaranHOST
8:31
Here's the other way I could value Disney.
Aswath DamodaranHOST
8:33
I could value ESPN separately.

7 MINS LATER

Aswath DamodaranHOST
15:10
I'll give you the cynical answer first.
Aswath DamodaranHOST
24:19
I want to focus on what could we be missing.
Aswath DamodaranHOST
24:22
And if the answer is nothing, I know you've already picked a company to do your DCF on.
Aswath DamodaranHOST
24:27
You've already completed it.
Aswath DamodaranHOST
24:29
But you want another company to try it? This might be an interesting company.
Aswath DamodaranHOST
25:37
You can see how you use multiples to make judgments about what's cheap and expensive, rather than doing the discounted cash flow evaluation.
Aswath DamodaranHOST
25:47
You think, what do I gain by doing it? If you actually wanted to do discounted cash flow evaluations on the mystery project, what would you need to do? 200 discounted cash flow evaluations.
Aswath DamodaranHOST
25:58
That's a lot of DCFs to do.
Aswath DamodaranHOST
26:00
Now you see why portfolio managers have to track 1,000 stocks, 2,000 stocks, 3,000 stocks.
Aswath DamodaranHOST
76:43
And that's why I said at the end of the class, I'm going to give you a choice.
Aswath DamodaranHOST
76:46
After you've done a DCF evaluation of your company and your pricing, I'm going to ask you, which one are you going to go with? There's no right answer.
Aswath DamodaranHOST
76:52
It depends on how you think markets make mistakes and correct the mistakes.
Aswath DamodaranHOST
76:56
So I will see you next Monday.
Dan PassarelliHOST
5:38
something that integrates well into our teachings, into everything that you have learned here on the podcast.
Dan PassarelliHOST
5:49
And I want to talk about the discounted cash flow model today and talk about some of the things that are really great about it and some of the limitations to them so that you can put these things to great use.
Dan PassarelliHOST
6:07
So what is a discounted cash flow model? A discounted cash flow model, or DCF model for short, is basically a long series of equations that estimates what a business is worth today based on the cash it's expected to generate in the future.
Dan PassarelliHOST
6:32
Think of like buying a food truck.
Dan PassarelliHOST
6:36
You'd want to know how much cash that business brings in every year.
Dan PassarelliHOST
6:43
How much cash that business could put in your pocket after paying for all the ingredients and repairs and pots and pans that need to be replaced and other expenses.
Dan PassarelliHOST
6:55
Well, it's the same idea here with the DCF model, but just valuing an entire corporation.
Dan PassarelliHOST
7:05
Now, that's the cash flow component.
Aswath DamodaranHOST
35:32
Second, if you take the next three variables, capex minus depreciation plus change in working capital.
Aswath DamodaranHOST
35:39
If I take capex minus depreciation plus change in working capital, when I did DCF valuation, when I take those three items and I put them together, what do I come up with? Capex minus depreciation plus change in working capital.
Aswath DamodaranHOST
35:55
It's my reinvestment, right? It's how I get from EBIT times 1 minus T to free cash flow to the firm.
Aswath DamodaranHOST
36:01
Other things remaining equal, the more you have to reinvest as a company to get your given growth rate, the lower your EBITDA EBITDA is going to be.
Aswath DamodaranHOST
39:45
I mean, it looks like we're flying through.
Aswath DamodaranHOST
39:47
It's because we're using the same process over and over again.
Aswath DamodaranHOST
39:49
We're going back to DCF model, doing some algebra.
Aswath DamodaranHOST
39:52
So I'm going to close off my discussion of multiples by talking about revenue multiples.
Jay HatfieldGUEST
37:55
It was just software engineers and some laptops, so it wasn't a big disruption.
Jay HatfieldGUEST
38:01
And these are all pretty well-educated people who can figure out other jobs, do startups, and then you get Google and all these other companies.
Jay HatfieldGUEST
38:10
Silicon Valley and the West Coast is a very dynamic economy and can come back from disruptions.
Ryan NaumanHOST
38:16
You're exactly right.

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