Dirty Sexy Money

Shows.

Dirty Sexy Money.

Yeah.

American Horror Story Asylum.

You can't ask for a hint.

Yes, I understand.

Dirty Sexy Money is the show.

And that is

Yeah.

Probably 10, 15 TV shows from Gossip Girls to Dirty Sexy Money, Brothers and Sisters, you know.

Cool.

All the biggies.

Because you gotta start somewhere.

Apparently, uh, worked an editor, editor for film and television, uh, Things That Never Said, Careful What You Wish For, the TV series Dirty Sexy Money, and V or Five, Once Upon a Time, Once Upon a Time in Wonderland.

He also earned a second directing credit when he directed The Bear King.

So what's your first directing credit? Is it Wonderland? It's Wonderland.

Because at the time I would take these little gigs appearing as a reporter.

I was in so many different shows, like a show called Lie to Me as a reporter, Dirty Sexy Money.

I was just myself as a reporter.

I would pop up in all of these different television shows, right? As a reporter.

No, the one he's talking about is a TV series, L.A. Law.

No, Dirty Sexy Money.

Oh, he was in, oh, that crap movie that you felt.

It's a great movie.

That was with Cindy Crawford.

Television work included some show called Dirty Sexy Money.

I don't recognize that at all.

Yeah.

You know, the thing that I saw that was changing after Dirty Sexy was, like, trans characters were starting to be written... like you know in a different kind of way yeah you know you could be funny you could have a storyline that wasn't just a horror drowning in a bathroom exactly you know

what i mean well that's what was so great about uh and congratulations uh on dirty sexy money you became the first trans woman to play a trans character on a major network show

On a primetime show.

On a primetime show.

Gary

... can, can you call the show Turned On: Dirty Sexy Money and then approach a church and say it's about faith, intention, and-

Oh, my gosh

... [laughs] life's complexities.