Dilbert

So later that would prove to be a foreshadowing of what I would be doing.

So after I graduated from college, I worked for a computer manufacturer with cubicles just like Dilbert.

And my cubicle mate was telling me about this nefarious group that runs like the world.

And I was very fascinated by this.

That's it.

like the best moments ever do you ever think about what you would remember if your life flashed in front of you like you're dying I don't know if that really happens but everything's like what do you call your life because I find that there are moments If my life were flashing before my eyes, I don't think I would think about my Dilbert career.

You know, 35 years of doing it every day, I don't think I would think about it.

I'll tell you

So later that would prove to be a foreshadowing of what I would be doing.

So after I graduated from college, I worked for a computer manufacturer with cubicles just like Dilbert.

And my cubicle mate was telling me about this nefarious group like the world.

And I was very fascinated by this.

I love their, like, they've done a lot of stuff, right? Like, they wrote for, like, Just Shoot Me and a bunch of different stuff.

But I just love the, like, bookends of their career so far are Dilbert and Ghosts and this.

Like, that's a funny fucking arc to have.

What monster do you think they'll do next? Probably a werewolf.

The Franks.

Yeah.

I like Dilbert as Dr. Frank.

That sounds fun.

Now it's thinking about the kind of unified core of it and thinking about the idea of examining kind of the creative ways that managers and executives overcome paradoxes like these core paradoxes.

and the problems that otherwise prevent them from being effective and how they learn to do that, how they work together to overcome these kind of Dilbert-like paradoxes all the way to really profound paradoxes in the way their organizations are structured.

I want folks to know that Thani's work is full of these heroes that find ways to be effective even against structural barriers.

Do you feel comfortable with that characterization or should we frame your work in some other way?

I knew one on...

What is the fucking name of that show? Not Dilbert, but the real life Dilbert.

Orange is the New Black.

No, I'm not asking about sitcoms.

Drew Carey.

So Drew Carey had a, what's his name? But I don't remember his name.

Dilbert.

I think

So I go to the restaurant he told me to meet me at.

And if you imagine the Dilbert character from the comic strip, but with hair down to his waist, little John Lennon glasses, and he was a computer programmer.

And he's one of the most intelligent men I've ever met in my life.

But he's got his own curse.