Dick Ayers

In the 50s, he started going and experimenting with different anchors.

And it was clearly, for me, Dick Ayers.

As

soon as he came in, it was like, this is classic Kirby.

Why do you say that?

You always say that.

I never have ever said a bad thing about Dick Ayers.

Yeah,

So, um, Yeah, I'm always looking.

I mean, I've read quite a few different artists, you know, Dick Ayers and, you know, Ramona Frayden, and I miss tremendously, you know, so.

I'm curious about the evolution, because obviously a lot of the younger artists especially have started moving more to digital, and that's not just the younger artists.

I mean, I know Pat, you know, for example, has started doing more pencils, and so sometimes with the artwork that you're selling, it might be on, you know, a digital blue line, but then the inks are actually on the page.

A lot of it's just a matter of interpretation and not really deciding to rebuild it, but... really just putting your sheen on it and in the way I draw bodies and you know I my incorporation of realism I'm still trying to get at this commonality with what I see as the cornerstone of Jack's style and I don't see him as so utterly abstract that he's removed from reality I see it as incredibly relatable to at least what I think I can intersect with so when people say we couldn't be more different.

I think that, no, I see it as, God, I would point out like some comics of Jack's run where, particularly with the inking of my favorite Jack inkers, Dick Ayers, um, some of that stuff got really realistic.

You know, his late fifties, early sixties work had a touch of realism within them in a lot of those adventures.

And, um, uh, I think that there's a whole lot of common space between what we do and what I think I can get across of what Jack did and why that's important to the FF.

That's true.

I wondered if Kirby's Sergeant Fury War stuff, and I know Dick Ayers did the majority of it, but I wonder if it was as appreciated by the adult audience the way that the DC war books were.

Because based on the letter pages, it seemed like we were getting an older clientele writing in and enjoying The Losers and Sergeant Rock and the like.

I had an uncle in the military who was 10 years older than me.