Diana Walsh Pasulka

He even said that, like, if there's extraterrestrials out there and they're talking to us, they could be our brother.

And then in 2019, religious studies professor Diana Walsh Pasulka published American Cosmic, arguing that belief in UFOs and non-human intelligence is functioning more and more like a new religion, with its own revelations, its own believers, and its own versions of beings coming from the sky.

And then there's the UFO community itself.

Believers in Bluebeam often point out that the most influential channeled texts of the last century from Theosophy's Hidden Masters, The Council of Nine, The Raw Material, we've done episodes on all those, they basically all tell the same story.

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so that's uh the big thing i got going on and the next interview on deck is actually diana pasulka i have talked to her after the release of her all three of her books now her third book is largely about ai and it's not as interesting to me as the first two were but we really got into some some crazy stuff because i started right out of the gate with this story she had told on a different podcast i was like there was not enough followup on this.

What the hell was that story? And, and like we dove down on it pretty hard and, uh, I thought it was a really great interview.

So that one is the next on deck, probably the first one in November.

You've had this experience.

You are saying it's like a biblical experience, which is quite interesting as well, because Diana Pasulka, she wrote a book, American Cosmic, and also a few other books after that.

And she's a Catholic, what do you call it, like a...

She's a lecturer in Catholicism, like a professor, sorry.

yeah um obviously again Grush had mentioned the video of the the NHI NHI violence um Burleson mentioned that again on the the interview today with Chrissy to say we are going after that again I get the feeling that we're at a point where Grush has told him here's where you can go in terms of evidence here's what you need to go after you don't need me to then do it because I can only take you so far like you say And then you've got the other side of it where if you want the physical evidence itself, it's one thing to go after that legacy program, but you've got Barbara who can literally get these objects now.

someone made the comment earlier and i didn't get a chance to catch it that the barber and co are shooting these things down now we don't know right now exactly what's happening to these things or indeed what is actually being shot down i've never got the impression from skywatcher that they are summoning craft with beings inside and shooting them down i don't feel that's what they are summoning I get the feeling they're summoning non-organic objects and this is something i talked about with diana pasulka and others um we don't know what they're shooting down of course if they're shooting down something that is living or you know detrimental to to a living being or sentience inside of it that's one thing i don't get the feeling that's the case i get like you've got here philia soul saying automated sentries perhaps it is something like that even burleson on the tim albarino interview that you mentioned They talked about orbs, and again, people know I'm very, I'm not a disbeliever of the orb phenomenon.

I think it's one that is massively taken advantage of and misrepresented in the community by a lot of folks.

But Burleson said he doesn't want to nail his colors to the mast when it comes to orbs.

And it's the same not just in ufology, but across all different kinds of topics.

So like I've always said, and I mean this for me as well, I don't know these people.

I've always used the example, if we find out UFO person A has been a lying bullshitter all the time and I get there's some serious allegations going on here but I'm making a broader point essentially I wouldn't be shocked because I don't know them I don't know David Grusch I don't know Lou Elizondo I don't know Ross Coulter I don't know Diana Pasulka George Knapp Jeremy Corbell I might message these people I might have more interactions than your average person does on this because of what I do but i don't pretend to know them i'm not going for sleepovers at their house or going for dinner with them on a regular basis partly because i live where i live but i quite like and i took the approach really early on with this topic to stay relatively detached and stay away from constantly bugging and messaging ufo celebrities that i could text constantly but i don't like to do it It's rare I will reach out to these people for anything other than a very quick comment or quote or interview request.

I'm not like that.

They throw in the next guy.

And again, if you look at the money behind it, you look at someone like Greer with Rockefeller money, or you look at the ties that a lot of the people in the UFO community have to Peter Thiel from Jesse Michaels to, what's her name, Pasulka.

And I mean, come on, what are we doing here? Everybody's tied to a billionaire at some point.

Also, if you don't mind, I'm going to create some light in here real quick so I'm not so dark.

I think Barney only very reluctantly said that gametes, you know, sperm samples were, were taken in his case.

And I, I believe Diana Pasulka, another religious scholar, also discusses, uh, the ecstasy of St., you know, uh, Teresa, uh, also accompanying a being, sort of spearing her in the heart or something.

Yeah.

Well, that's the, the a- the angel, as they call it.

What's maladaptive in society is adaptive spiritually.

Now put that next to UFO experiences.

Jacques Vallee in Passport to Magonia, Diana Pasulka in American Cosmic.

What do experiencers that come into close contact with UFOs report? Burns, scars, implants, a body that gets marked, and then downloads, voices, a sense of being spoken to by something vastly more intelligent than you.

So what's different or changed that they are now loading them with a different method when they know something else works anyway? So for me, it's like, again, it might be a bit more practical to not have a nuclear carrier fleet out at sea and then check and observe any UFOs that kind of come overhead.

However, what is this machine doing that brings them in and lures them in? And to the point, I had this discussion with a few guests, including Diana Pasulka, who do we even know what they are bringing in our craft

yeah and um you know because there's some people within even the presidential cabinet um that they think that this is spiritual they think that this has to do with angels and demons this is very common especially in the cabinet specifically And if that's the case, I just want to know what other approaches somebody like Skywatcher has.

Do they think the same thing? Do they think they're actually interacting or fighting with angels or demons when these things land? I would love to know information like that.

And I think people deserve to know why, because it's kind of weird.

I agree.

Diana Pasulka has talked about the ritual stuff before around NASA launches for various missions involving that.

They've always got the Greek God stuff on the sides of shuttles and various logos and stuff like that.