[laughs] When did you tell us when you started in fit- like, how did it all come about? How, when did you start training?

Well, originally, I got into it, oh, 'cause I was always like, I was, I was like half...

I was the fat kid at school that, you know, everyone picked on a bit, had their banter, and I'd sort of be always last one to be, get picked.

The only thing I was ever good at, at sport, was shot put and discus.

And I used to ride horses and, like, I'd have to carry feed, like carry hay bales and, you know, bran, bags of, bags of bran and oats and God knows what.

And I figured I was pretty strong.

And I was built, like back in those days, I was built like a brick shithouse really.

Did you have a coach or did you do your own coaching?