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Dharmesh Shah

Dharmesh Shah

Computer scientist

Sep 15, 2026

18:12
... was so valuable to the building of uSpot?
18:15
uSpot?You know, everyone talks about the models, right? Uh, models get the headlines.
18:19
It's Fable 5.1. It's GPT-6 Astra.
18:21
But it's the harness that actually delivers the results.
18:23
Um, and the way to think about it, the, you know, best analogy I have is the AI model, think of that as the engine, uh, of, of a car, right? It's like it's got the horsepower, it's the thing that sorta has all the kind of latent energy that can actually do something.
18:36
Uh, or a battery if you're in the EV kinda thing.
18:38
But that on its own obviously is not gonna get you from point A to point B.

8 MINS LATER

26:28
Like what do you think about this category of stuff, and how does like uSpot fit in in that whole world?
37:24
... of abstraction, anything else on MCP you mentioned?
37:27
Let's move back, and then I'll, I'll c- tie it back to MCPs.
37:30
So I think we opened this with Agent.ai.
37:33
Okay.
37:33
So I'll start with here's my kind of running thesis, is that as AI and agents evolve, which they're doing very, very quickly, we're going to look at them more and more...
37:44
I don't like to anthropomorphize, and we'll talk about why this is not that.
37:47
Less as just like raw tools and more like teammates.

23 MINS LATER

SwyxHOST
60:32
I'm curious how you divide the, the two.

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