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Well, so I'm not sure that the listeners are going to want to get into that all that much.

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Look, on systems thinking, the only thing I want to get into here is that it's become a little bit of a meme word, that everything's a systems problem.

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Thank you for the conversation.

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Thank you so much, Ellen.

The Design of Business, The Business of Design is a podcast from Design Observer.

Design Observer was co-founded by Jessica Helfand.

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And yes, it does involve the Civil War.

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For the second year in a row, Design Observer is publishing some exclusive conversations from the Aspen Institute's Business and Society Summit, They were so popular last year, we did the whole thing from there this year.

I was lucky enough to be back in Aspen this July where I interviewed eight really thoughtful, important, and provocative leaders who were thinking deeply about all the same things you and I are thinking about, AI, sustainability, the role of business in today's chaotic world, all while working and living through what many refer to as unprecedented times.

They're also thinking about collaborating with others in a time when it often feels impossible to do so, something Design Observer is spending a lot of time on this fall.

It's a theme that we're focused on called radical collaboration.

We will be publishing two of these interviews a week for the next month starting today.

Interviews with Judy Samuelson and Todd Brayfogle are live and in your feed now.

But before you dive into the interviews, we want to give you some context.