like to ask, well, what is a great song, you know? It can mean a whole lot of things.

Yeah, yeah, it can be.

And it's a lot, you know, and that's one of the hard things, I think.

That definition is so hard because as a songwriter, when you, you know, you enter various contests and, you know, everything from...

It's so interesting to go from one place to the other and see what songs come out as top songs in one of those contests because you're like, you could... you could have a criterion for whatever the genre of the contest is.

That's exactly the same.

And the final four or five that come out are entirely different than it might be two States away in another songwriting contest or another state.

Somebody's saying something.