Um, so what is that recipe? How do you find correct people to interview to begin with? And what advice would you give to other companies who are struggling right now with maybe toxic environment in their company? Do they need to fire everyone and hire everyone new? [laughs]

Yeah.

It's, um...

You know, it, it's...

I- and unfortunately, we've had those experiences as well, right? It, it's not a perfect system.

Uh, Brian and I are human, so at the end of the day, we, we mishire.

Uh, that, that does happen.

And, um, from the client experience that we are discussing right now, what is something that still stands out to you the most, a story that you might share with us, a client success this time?