I mean, we got right into it, Del.

We did.

We dove right into it.

I want to...

I want to correct it.

I mean, I want to put this a little bit different.

You say we know that the vaccine is causing more damage than maybe the disease itself.

advertising to them it's it's uh has to be addressed and we're the only country that allows that

Check the link in our show notes.

But this is what we know, we jumped out of those trials, what? For the emergency use authorization.

We made it about two weeks past the second shot.

Now I wanna be clear, my non-profit, the Informed Consent Action Network, we actually do play all sides of this.

Because we've sued and won against the FDA, we're in phone calls with them, that's right, we've kicked their ass, we've kicked the CDC, the National Institute of Health, Health and Human Services.

So we signed a petition to the FDA.

We sent it and said, the Informed Consent Action Network will officially state that you did not do a proper safety trial with this vaccine unless in the phase three trials we see saline placebos, real placebos.

Well, I verify team is dedicated to fighting.

So Del, thanks for coming on, and thanks for everything that you've done.

Tony, thank you for having me.

Um, you know, a- as we focus on vaccines today, uh, Politico put out a very interesting article talking about MAHA, and that there are actually... uh, a broader coalition of Americans consider themselves to, you know, believe in MAHA values, though they will not identify as MAHA because of the political affiliation.

And when they broke it down, they showed things like 20% of Kamala Harris voters said they believe in MAHA values.

Uh, and so for that reason, I wanna talk a little bit to those people that might be joining MAHA right now to watch this that maybe aren't identifying it, trying to understand what this is about.

We also see that the MAHA movement is very strong in food safety and things like that.

Some upwards around 60% of America, uh, maybe even 70 in certain, uh, areas wanna see a better, cleaner food supply.

So thank you so much for, for the films you've done, for the organization you, you run, and for, you know, coming on here again.

And it's a critical

part of the film.

But so I had this footage where he admits it's a great study.

He admits he would publish it under any other circumstance.

But under the climate around vaccines, he's only going to lose his license.

He's only going to be attacked.

It will only be a detriment to him and no benefit to the world.

Why do you think they're doing this?

You might as well do it blind.

I think it's important, Neil, to point out that I don't think, I mean, this could sound nefarious, and I don't want to make some accusation that there was a nefarious intent around this.

Instead, I'd like to look at how human beings are wired and to understand what was tested.

What has been tested in vaccines is do they create antibodies for the disease we're vaccinating for? Those are the only studies that have been done.

And the assumption has been that if they create antibodies to that disease, then those antibodies will be long lasting and will protect us from essentially contracting the whole symptomology process of that infection it reduces it it sort of tricks our body into believing it's it's had the disease but develops immunity before actually getting the the rash from measles or the the pox from chicken pox or You know, the fever from polio, and of course, obviously the extreme side effect of polio being paralysis, which is something that we're all concerned about, but happened in a very, very rare group, by the way, of people that contracted polio.

So all they ever did was check to see, did we get antibody production? There's actually, and we learned this through COVID, Neil, that that does not necessarily mean that it is stopping you from having the infection.

many times all it is doing is stopping you from having symptoms but you are still could be completely colonizing this infection whether it's in your throat or your lungs but you're just not having bad side effects which then has its own problems that we could do an entire episode about being an asymptomatic carrier where now you carry the disease you are infectious and spreading it but you don't know that you're spreading it i don't want to get into that because that's a whole other ball of wax but i do want to say this the problem was we never asked the question is injecting a virus or a bacteria and creating antibodies safer than having the symptoms that come with the disease that should have been the obvious question with the very first vaccine with smallpox but that question was never really asked They assume since you didn't contract smallpox, certainly you're faring better than if you did.

Are there worldwide or national indications of drop-off in the uptake of these products? Because there's nothing else that people can do.

You have some of the guests, and fill us in on that.

Well, I mean, I think the Highwire, I, I sort of call it an experiment in media.

Um, I was a producer at CBS on the daytime talk show The Doctors, so I won an Emmy Award all the way back in, I don't know, 2013, '14, somewhere in there, um, celebrating science and medicine, making the television.

But one of the things that you do in television that people I don't think often realize is you usually pre-interview your guests before they're ever on your show.

And if it's, if it's not me doing it as the host, I have, you know, an associate producer doing that.

And so we would talk about, wouldn't it be amazing if, you know, like the best stuff you would hear from somebody always happened in that pre-interview.

And then if you're really talented, you manage to get the good stuff back out of them again and make them repeat it, right? So it's gets this secondary feel to it.

I, I, I got tears in my eyes watching this.

Dale, take us back to where that story began.

I won an Emmy Award on the doctors, but then stumbled onto an investigation into autism through the story about Dr. William Thompson, who is at the center of the most important study ever done on vaccines and autism between 2000 and 2004.

And he came forward and said they committed scientific fraud on the study and that the CDC had attempted to make him burn 10,000 documents.

He ended up saving them, thank God.

And years, I think it was like 10, 15 years later, finally it came forward.

And so a documentary about that that was called Vaxxed that you brought up that changed my life.

And again, Vaxxed, uh, similar to the high wire, like being in, and maybe that's where the energy came from.

Anyway, so I'm sorry for that little roundabout preface, but...

Welcome Dell Bigtree.

Tony, thank you for all of your incredible work carrying this Maha movement for the people.

It's extraordinary.

I think there's so much that we can celebrate right now.

About a year and a half in, I guess, into this administration and the great work they've done.

I'm getting Maha today.

I'm all sweaty.

So thanks for coming on.

If you step back from everything that you've produced, which I think is, is just such incredible works, what do you think the deeper underlying message is for parents, especially those, you know, who are navigating complex challenges with their children?

The one thing that I always, you know, wanna say is that there's a lot of times that parents with, um, children that have been injured by vaccines will come up to me at an event and, and say something like, "You know, you don't even have a child with autism, and yet you're in this fight.

Thank you for your sacrifice." Um, I always really find it necessary to correct, I think, that perspective.

Um, I think the parents of injured children out there, um, are the ones that, and I said this at a, at a Mother's Day speaking event, are the ones that have built the resistance.

They're the ones that have built this movement.

MAHA doesn't exist.

Medical freedom doesn't exist.

I know you don't have time to go into that whole story, but can you leave a parting message for our listeners about, about the reason not to lay low?

And, uh, you know, and, and I guess, uh, when you fi- find something to say, or you have something to say, just jump in when you, when you have the opportunity.

Yeah.

Great.

Um, you know, I, for thr- over three years now, have done 175 episodes every Thursday of my show, The High Wire.

I've been, you know, investigating science and medicine the way I had for my whole career.

I mean, my, I started on CBS, on the CBS talk show, The Doctors, where I won an Emmy Award celebrating the best that science and medicine has to offer.

Um, and then, of course, I made a documentary called Vaxxed, because doing that job, I ran into a whistleblower at the CDC that was saying that, um, they were committing scientific fraud on the vaccine safety studies, and that sent me into a whole world that I never expected.

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What do you want him to know today?

Well, I want President Trump to know that if you are a businessman, I think the people that elected Donald Trump.

elected him to run this country like a business.

Well, business requires free market forces, and one of the most important market forces there is to make sure that products are safe in America is the right to be able to sue a manufacturer if their product is poisoning us.

Today, the Supreme Court is going to rule whether they should give liability protection to Bear Monsanto and their product, Life and State.

After it's already lost $11 billion in courtrooms, over 100,000 cases, hundreds of thousands more are lined up.

Even the IARC, the International Agency on the Research for Cancer, the WHO, ruled 10 years ago, gave it the second highest cancer rating in the world.

Would this be a break for you from the Trump administration? Like, I can't work on other things with you? Is that

... and, and all of that in a moment, but I want you to address, like, what we're seeing here and, you know, for those people that think, "Oh, this is a conspiracy that farmers are seeing an, uh, an increase in ticks on their farms," what do you know about this?

Well, I always get concerned, I mean, on both sides of this conversation.

As you've pointed out, you have the World Economic Forum, you have leaders around the world saying that, that, you know, uh, essentially, uh, no one should be eating meat.

You'll all be renters, you know? Uh, we need to reduce the population.

I always say we should take these people very seriously when they make these statements.

So you look at the desire to have us stop eating meat and dairy products and, you know, animal products while Bill Gates is funding lab-grown meat and things like that, then you see this tick-borne illness.

It's called alpha-gal.

Yeah.

Tell, tell me about that.

Well, you had the American Academy of Pediatrics brought a lawsuit against Robert Kennedy Jr., and, uh, HS- HHS Secretary at HHS.

Uh, they attempted to roll back the reduction in vaccines.

He had moved us over to a schedule much more similar to, uh, Denmark and Germany.

So reducing a 54-shot regimen down to 26, uh, total injections, which I think was a great step, and by the way, didn't er- didn't erase those other vaccines.

Essentially just said those should be shared decision-making.

Those should be decisions between you and your doctor, things like hepatitis B on day one of birth.

Right

Mm-hmm.

I mean, from-- for years and years, all the stories of organic farmers who had the seed blow over onto their farm and Monsanto was suing them, I hated that company.

And so when I saw this moment where Monsanto's being accused essentially of spraying things on, on 90% of our crops that is probably carcinogenic to human beings, which is the second highest ca-cancer rating there is, second only to does cause cancer, um, the beauty of that show was I could reach out, which I did, to Monsanto and say, "Hey, look, your, you know, WHO is saying your product probably causes cancer.

Would you like to defend it on our television show?" And I had a sense that they felt like it would be a safe platform for them.

The Doctors is a medical show.

We're sponsored by...

They just didn't know that the hippie, the son of the hippie kid is in here.

And we've just lost that commitment.

Is that what's happening?

Well, they're not pulling it off, which is, I mean, which is what the critics of Bobby said he would always do.

"He's gonna get rid of all the vaccines." The truth is he's doing what I think most Americans w- would want, which is hepatitis B, sexually transmitted disease, you can only get it if you're sleeping with......

prostitutes or sharing heroin needles.

99.95% of mothers are not Hepatitis B positive, they're negative.

So, they're blood tested.

So, there's no reason to give this to a day-one-old baby.

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Right.

That's right.

Think it might have been your mom that dragged me in.

Uh, but as soon as I did it, I was like, "Oh, I, I really enjoy doing this." So as the tour went on, I started going to more and more capitols, and then I started flying because people wanted me to go to the different capitols.

So, while I was doing that, the truth was is, after a year, vax was only about the MMR vaccine and I wanted to go deeper because, as Paulie said just earlier, it wasn't just autism, it wasn't just MMR.

People were saying, "My baby died after a flu shot." "My teenage daughter was paralyzed after a Gardasil vaccine." I wanted to get to the bottom of that, and so I started a nonprofit, Informed Consent Action Network, started my own internet talk show, The High Wire, then hired a congru-...

I mean, you know, the constitutional attorney, Aaron Serre, to start suing the government so we could get to the bottom of the answers on vaccine safety.

And Del, ultimately, why do you do what you do every day? What is the reason?

Were these so-called vaccines, I don't even think they're vaccines, were these shots ever safe for human consumption? Were they ever studied enough to where we know that mRNA is useful in humans? Because I've heard nothing but bad things as the truth continues to come out.

Well, look, you're talking about the mRNA COVID shots, which, no, we all watch those rushed onto the market.

But this film is about the childhood vaccine program.

A lot of people want to believe that the COVID shots are the only ones that are an issue.

And the truth actually is, Joe, that the COVID vaccine had better safety testing than any vaccine we've ever given our children.

And that is a problem when we look at how sick our kids are.

We are now looking at our children, one in about 54% of children in America now have chronic disease.

If there's a death, and there are a lot of documented deaths now through VAERS because of the current so-called vaccines, why can't you sue? Whose dumb idea was it to let them off the hook when it comes to having a product that doesn't hurt us?

Sir.

Sir.Yeah, I mean, just very quickly, I want to make it clear, I'm not a doctor, I'm a journalist.

I was a producer on the daytime talk show The Doctors at CBS.

I won an Emmy Award doing medical research sciences television.

I made the documentary Vaxxed, From Cover-up to Catastrophe with Andy Wakefield.

That changed my career forever, destroyed my television career, 'cause once you've gone against pharma, you can't work in TV.

It didn't matter, I doubled down on that inve- investigation.

You actually figured, "Hey, I gotta go full 60 minutes, I gotta go O'Keefe on this." What is it about this study, as we're gonna break this film down to a couple of component pieces, what is it about this study that's gotten you so obsessed with it?

What is An Inconvenient Study, and how, how can people go see this, sir? 'Cause it k- it kind of blew me away.

It's, it's available immediately for free at aninconvenientstudy.com. We've also got the study there for anyone that wants to read it.

And we're publishing all the attacks on the study and the, and rebutting the attacks on the study, because I believe in the scientific method.

I think that's what's launching right here right now with this study, uh, with the movement.

I do want to tip my hat to James O'Keefe.

That is not my usual style.

In fact, I think it's the only time-

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Yeah.

And so if you don't do it, you're a heretic and you're going to get us all killed.

You're born with an original sin.

Your baby has to be vaccinated on the very first day that it enters this earth.

It is given a sexually transmitted disease called Hepatitis B.

You will...

We will call Child Protective Services on you if you try to leave that hospital without getting that vaccine with your child.

They keep us honest.