So how could we review our daily life and practice joyful practices there?

Yeah, I mean, I think there's aspects.

Everybody has aspects of their job that they absolutely love and aspects of their job where they like may procrastinate.

Maybe it's opening emails on a Monday morning.

But I do believe that we can that we can add joy to those moments so that they're they're not so humdrum and and and we don't resent them.

And so, yeah.

It could be doing laundry and making sure you've got like the laundry detergent that you enjoy the smell of.

And if we shift to, to racing and training, do you have a practical example of maybe some anxieties and how you've coped with them within a race or within training?

Yep

... and so don't have any aches and pains.

I can go out and, and enjoy running for what it's worth.

And although my schedule isn't very organized, we do have- Mammoth Track Club has team practices on Tuesday mornings, um, with the general membership, so a bunch of, um, of people that live in town of various abilities.

So I go to- go to that practice on Tuesday mornings to get in some speed work.

But, like, just this morning, not having a tight time schedule, it was my first day of not having a tight time schedule in the last couple of weeks.

I just kinda went out without my watch and just climbed every hill I could see, and, um, and watched the wildflowers, and stopped and looked at a waterfall.

Yeah

So do you feel like your mental outlook or strategies continue to change maybe as your relationship to running continues to change, or thinking about our runners as they get more experienced or fitter, do these, do these things change?

Yeah.

They, um, your mindset does change all the time because your struggles change.

You can, you can rely on, like for me, I relied on the mantra define myself for years because I felt like it, it took all the emotion out of it and just made me get strategic and define myself as, as tough and gritty and determined and enduring.

But define yourself kind of lost its lure for a while, and, um, and I had to find a, a new strategy to rise above it.

It's like, well, now I feel like I've made this niche for myself that I really do emphasize the mental side of running, having that sound mind and that sound body, that I've emphasized it so much that now I use it as a game to help other people.

Like the, someone's gonna come to me and ask me for this advice, and I need to have a tool available for them to, to rely on to get them through it.

Mm

Okay.

So I was walking her on the treadmill with an exaggerated bounce, and she fell asleep, so I passed her to Andrew, and I put up the, put up the numbers on the treadmill, and I started running.

And I wasn't running fast, but I just felt like tingling through my whole body, like my system was starting to, like, flow again.

My chi, my energy, um, just started flowing through me, and it felt so exhilarating.

Even that tiny run, it was not even a mile, and it was such a small amount of time and such a slow pace, and it felt so good that it made me know that I still had it in me.

But I had a really hard time.

I was trying to make my fourth Olympic team and had a really hard time balancing having been a professional runner 100% focused on my career for so many years, my husband being all in, 100% focused.

What would be your advice to an athlete who is struggling with the problem of comparison?