Dean Phillips

And I have used that as my bellwether, my high watermark for the DFL.

Do you have the guts to do what Governor Walz did and basically backing up the House and the Senate in Minnesota and passing all those bills which have fundamentally changed Minnesota for the better? And I talked about this when Dean Phillips was saying he wanted to run for president.

And I said, do I think Dean Phillips would follow that? Of course he wouldn't.

He would have not done that.

When I think about trust, I mean, do I trust Governor Walz? Yes, I do.

We don't care.

Biden's not here," and it's Dean Phillips and Marianne Williamson, and the national media still paid attention.

They still came.

It was huge.

... than they ever did.

And so, uh, to me, that's an indicator.

So if, if Dean Phillips and Marianne Williamson can get that kind of attention, and we're talking about candidates that w- did not have, uh, um...

They had a very low ceiling, right? It was like they, they were, you know, challenging, but not making it very far.

Um, I wanna move on to the Senate race.

I will just note, though, you know, last cycle, uh, Dean Phillips said it here in New Hampshire a bunch, that Biden was not up to running for another term.

He was kind of, like, screaming it from anywhere that would listen, basically here in the Granite State.

And you wonder what would've happened with Democrats if they actually had a process that started here in New Hampshire with the retail campaigning that it's known for.

Um, hmm.

Rep, uh, Representative, Rep- Republican Dean Phillips, uh, or Representative Dean Phillips from Minnesota, uh, Democrat, added, "My first reaction is probably like everybody watching this, which is wow, and secondly, I'll believe it when I see it."

it."I, I mean, that's fair.

You're not supposed to immediately believe UFO.

I mean, I did not personally want Joe Biden to run again.

And, you know, Dean Phillips was on the ballot here in North Carolina.

I know people who voted for Dean Phillips.

My position was this is, you know, love it or hate it, you know, this— the team captain is going to take the field and whether, whether or not you sit on the sideline and, and, and call for the ref to somehow, you know, put a timeout or something like, no, like you just, you, you follow the captain, right? You, you, you do it.

And until after the election, like, this is your guy.

Mm

... named Dean Phillips f- passed the, the fixes to the PPP, which, um, Emily and I both got to contribute to intellectually as well, so that was pretty cool.

Well, and even my company, you know, we got some PPP resistance, so when...

We'll go have a drink sometime.