Dean Corll

And not just being a sadist.

You don't just act like Dean Corll or whatever.

That's

not...

We don't wanna ruffle feathers because who knows what's gonna come to us if we do.

Yeah, and that Dean Corll you were talking about before, uh, he had a list of, uh, like 4,000 names.

It was like a huge, uh, in his Rolodex, right?

Oh, get what his ...

One of them ended up shooting him in the fucking head and killing him.

Uh, but he groomed a couple guys who he was gonna kill, and then they ended up working for him, and they would lure boys in with weed and booze, and then Dean Corll would put them on these kind of torture racks and, uh, psychologically and physically torture them to death over the course of, you know, a couple days.

Um, and you know, back then, stuff like that, I'm not saying it was good, I'm not saying it was bad, just saying it, it, you know, uh, it happened.

And, uh, he was kind of a...

I'm not gonna- I'm gonna go out on a long limb and I'm just gonna say he was not well-liked in the neighborhood, Dean Corll.

Uh, and so one day, uh, one of the guys was like, "Hey, Dean, I'm about tired of killing all these boys." And Dean was like, "Well, do something about it then." And so the guy, uh, took a revolver and shot Dean right in the fucking forehead.

Uh, and from my understanding, Dean didn't immediately die.

There's also a reason that the Houston area was already on edge in 1974, and that just simply adds to the confusion.

See, barely a year before Timothy died, police in Pasadena uncovered the crimes of a man named Dean Corll, whose family ran a candy company and who handed out sweets to local kids.

He murdered more than two dozen teenage boys and young men.

And the press? Well, they called him the Candyman.

It's all bullshit.

There are no connections between." Look, it's already been demonstrated that John Wayne Gacy did have a direct connection with John David Norman, Paskey, and Dean Corll.

That's on record.

And people thought and said for decades, including I think Gacy himself, that, "No, I was working with other people and I was working with other, there was other networks of this." Okay? And what connected that nert- network was that creeper dude, John David Norman, who was setting up boys town type things, houses for boys, uh, who were strays and runaways to be discipled by older men.

This is important because this ties...

This is where, uh, Jeffrey begins to move into the circles of the Skittles bath houses and underaged, uh, people types of circles.

This would be similar to what happens with Gacy and Dean Corll through John David Norman, who pimps out underage people's, uh, boys, of course, to these circles, and overlaps again with satanic, potentially satanic circles

spree of druggings, his evasion of suspicion from his family and law enforcement, his arrests, and of course, his murders.

So there was a man who was...

He ca- was come to kn- be known as, he came to be known as The Candyman, and his name was Dean Corll.

Which one we starting with?

This is the man who is, like, the actual man.

The actual Candyman.

The actual Candyman.

And his name was Dean Corll, and he was a serial killer.

And he was murdering people in Pa- well, in Pasadena, Texas, of all places, just down the street from Galveston.

That is my Candyman as well.

It seemed very familiar, but I forgot that that was Dean Corll's thing.

Yeah, because his mom owned the candy store.

He would wait outside the schools, right? Yeah.

Yeah, that's my, I, I think it's-

That one has Dean from Gilmore Girls in it, I think.

Maybe.

Uh, it has, it-

I wanna understand it.

Like I wanna dive deeper." And also it feels a little bit like a guy, uh, getting interested in like true crime too, which I feel like is very interesting considering Tobe Hooper did a lot of research about Ed Gein when he was writing, co-writing this movie, right? He did have sort of a hyperfixation on a guy who did a lot of fucked up shit, and I sort of feel like Franklin's a little bit of a self-insert by Tobe Hooper and, uh, and Mike Hinkle who was ...

Uh, or sorry, Kim Hin- Hinkle, my bad, um, who was the co-writer on the script and, uh, was very obsessed with Dean Corll and his accomplice, uh, Elmer Wayne Henley, um, who were another pair of serial, serial killers.

Um, both of them kind of had their separate serial killer obsessions wh- as they were writing this script.

All right, so jumping back in, John David Norman and John Wayne Gacy also have several kind of bizarre, see what I did there? Bizarre.

Connections to another serial killer who is named Dean Corll, C-O-R-L-L.

And this was a guy I really wasn't that familiar with until I started doing the research for this episode.

And I've got a picture of him there if you want to pull that up, Shane.

But as we will soon see, this guy was an official creep because between 1970 and 1973, he tortured, raped, and murdered at least 29 teenage boys and young men in the Houston, Texas area.

Remember, John David Norman spent some time in Houston.

This guy, Dean Corll, his murders became known as the Houston Mass Murders, and at the time, they were considered, quote, the worst example of serial murder in United States history.

However, this was soon surpassed by John Wayne Gacy's 33... 33...