Dead Europe

Europe as well.

Dead Europe, of course.

Yeah.

So over many, many years, and I guess part of the pleasure of this podcast, for me at least, is to be talking with people I've had a long relationship with and connection with and take I guess the audience a bit inside the tent of what um well this is really I think we call this the art of producing what is producing um it's one of those quite mysterious things where you know people don't really know what we do it's much easier to know what a director does or a writer or an actor you can sort of see their work I do ask myself that question sometimes as well what does a producer do producers do a whole range of different things and they're different producers who focus on different things but how would you categorize what a um And we might see your dog Billy walking through frame occasionally, which is not a bad thing.