Deacon Frost

So you could tell somebody who's reads all these comic books, you know, whether they're, you know, the old Tales from the Crypt ones or, or Monster comics or any, you know, more commercial things like, like Spider-Man or Batman, you know.

He, he seems to really be drawn to these, like, fantastical stories of these larger than life characters, but obviously has a, a deep empathy for them.

And I do want to mention his grandmother.

Okay.

I think it was still back when you could get physical disks from Netflix.

Mm.

And I think I got Hellboy and Hellboy 2 in the mail, and I watched them, like, back to back and I'm like, "Okay, I, I really appreciate what I'm seeing here, but I'm having a hard time relating to the characters." So my, my relationship with the movie is, is personal.

He didn't do anything wrong as a filmmaker, it's just not, it was just not my cup of tea.

It one it kind of doesn't make sense because like Blade found Whistler in their lair like dead.

So what like they left him there for Blade and then when Blade then goes after Deacon Frost they would then went back again to go get the body.

to turn him like and then and then they've been just dragging him around different locations and i don't know i think i think uh they brought whistler back because you know they kind of wanted to uh show you know blades human side that like you know like that's still a part of him or whatever because that's a big part of you know his arc in this is interrogating you know his vampire side and how he feels and then this other race and then that makes the vampires feel a certain way i think we could have still done that without really needing um without needing to bring whistler back i think like the fact that whistler already existed in his life and then passed away would have been more motivation enough to already do that without having to just like for story contrivances and then like you know dampening the impact of the first movie I'm just like did we really need to do this and then that like somehow factored into all the different backstabbing that comes in later at the end of the movie that I find very kind of tedious.

What do you think about the way we're reintroduced to Blade and them bringing Whistler back?

So cool.

I think it's really fun.

Like you said, he is definitely more formidable of an opponent than Deacon Frost ever was.

I like the detail in this movie where during this fight, they're kind of going back and forth.

I really only loved his one character, Christian Dorff.

He was Deacon Frost in Blade.

I was like, being a kid, I was like, oh, so this is what it's like when you grow up.

You party on rooftops in New York City, and there's vampires, and everyone's listening to trip-hop, and they're swagged out.

Isn't that a band? Oh, no, Zeromancer.

Whatever.

But, yeah, that's what I was obsessed with was, like, Deacon Frost and Dade Murphy were the things, the archetypes that I...

So I guess I was into that kind of cool, edgy guy, alternative goth guy archetype.

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... unless you wanna be Deacon Frost, but he's pretty smarmy.

I didn't wanna, like, call you, like, a smarmy, like, villain like him.

And, and I also-

Yeah

... like, wanna fuck Deacon Frost.

I don't really wanna fuck you that bad, so, like, I wasn't gonna go there either.

Yeah, I don't wanna be, uh, emphasis on that bad.

Not Deacon Jones.

Not Deacon Frost.

Very good.

A touch of frost.

Fucking... just word association now that's the show

but it's only you I didn't do anything I'm riffing Conor I say what kind of a riff is it if I say is it Deacon Jones and you then go on a ramble between Deacon Jones and Deacon Frost to a touch of frost and then go we're improv-ing baby

Conor I have an infection alright everyone strap in this is going to be a long one please go on created in August of 2006 by Daniel Way and Steve Dillon, first appearing in Wolverine Origins No. 5.

Born Akihiro, he was the son of Wolverine and a lady named Itsu.

Yeah.

That reminded me of Blade though, because Deacon Frost-

Oh, yeah, Pearl

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