David Xanatos

choices.

You know, like your Xanatos, because you like giving people choices that, you know, benefit you

at the end of the day.

I love that cartoon, too.

Yeah.

Gargoyles? Oh, yeah.

That's where the Xanatos complex comes from, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Jonathan Frakes did the voiceover.

Dracon, to my mind, is just kind of...

When they need someone who's not Xanatos, or at Xanatos' level, we're going to get Dracon.

Go level Xanatos.

Yeah,

like, because Xanatos, Xanatos in his way is comical.

He's so bored and so rich, he just does shit.

Yeah.

And like, I suppose in how they go about things is he does things more like a criminal.

Yeah, and that's just, but I, yes, I do love the horror trope of like, you know, for I've conquered every world of business, so obviously, time to get into supernatural shit.

Much like my favorite bored billionaire, well, I think millionaire at the time, Xanatos

from Gargoyles.

Yes, of course.

We're going to talk about math in a moment.

but we thankfully someone else did the math but no math right now so now we cut to the White House and we get to see the back of the White House last time New York drew the front of the White House and Xanatos meets the other number two we'll talk more about him Paul

starts making a little more sense

yep and at this point he starts explaining the Illuminati's numbering system there's one number one two number twos, all the way to 36s, which is a fun numbering system, and I remember people were shocked that Duvall was only a two, because for years, Greg told us that he was the leader, and we'll talk a little bit more about that at another point, but that caused a lot of speculation.

So

close.

He's trying not to duplicate mistakes made by both Xanatos and him in the past.

It's going to take some time.

They could both be Machiavellian.

They could be like, who's the gargoyle bad guy that's a friend of the gargoyles? Xanatos.

They could both be like David Xanatos.

You know? Which, by the way, my girlfriend never watched Gargoyles beyond the first few episodes.

We're doing an entire rewatch of the entire thing.

yeah

david's aunt is not as

Oh, David Xanatos.

Xanatos.

It's a thousand years later.

We're in Xanatos's— castle wyvern um it's we see it's like rebuilt on top of this manhattan skyscraper above the clouds and it's sunset xanatos is out there he's waiting for the gargoyles to break free of the stone and they do and he is elated um Oh, maybe this is not where he explains it, but there's somewhere here where there's like a little bit of like a Q&A session going on between him and the other gargoyles.

Yeah, they ask.

Yeah, they're like, what happened to them? Yeah, he's like, none of them made it.

And the gargoyles are completely confused.

They don't know what's going on, but they have to defend the castle, of course.

Xanatos blames this rival corporate, some company.

And...