And the Wanderers led on multiple occasions against Chelsea.

I think so.

And I know there's a lot of debate about the merits of these games and so on.

And that's a big conversation.

But on face value, as you would know, Speedy, and as happens most times when A-League clubs steps up, they impress.

And they play well.

above their reputation globally to give a really good account of themselves against the opposition.

But Europe have found the retort and it's probably not going to happen, is it?

A fantastic result for Sydney FC getting a draw against Spurs, and the Wanderers led on multiple occasions against Chelsea.

Yeah, I think so, and I know there's a lot of debate about the merits of these games and so on, and that's a bigger conversation.

But on face value, um, as you would know, Speedy, and this happens most times an A-League club steps up, that they impress and, and they, they play above, uh, their reputation globally to give a really good account of themselves against the opposition.

Two really different games.

Uwe Rosler's, uh, first big game as a Wanderers manager, he had them coming out 100 miles an hour, pressing aggressively, which is a big call against a, a Premier League outfit, albeit they had their, uh, academy players on at the start.

And they gave a fantastic account of themselves.

It was a really entertaining game as a result.

Uh, but, uh, Europe have found the retort, and it's probably not gonna happen, is it?

We will thank you in advance because that is why you are here.

Well, Texas Chainsaw...

the longest time was the scariest movie that i ever saw in my entire life and i've seen many a scary movie uh this is this is the kid who uh who i was born in 68 so i was a 70s kid an 80s teen during the 70s when texas chainsaw came out i was too young i was six to i didn't even know that it existed But I did know about these things when they would make their network television debut, whether it was The Exorcist or The Omen or Amityville Horror, all those kinds of things.

But I still never saw Texas Chainsaw because it's such a shroud of mystique around it, at least where I grew up, that it was the scariest thing ever.

You know, the three words, Texas, chainsaw, massacre are four words, right? Because chainsaw.

But...

Ultimately, it was something that I was kind of afraid to check out.

And hence, he and Kim Hinkle start writing the Texas Chainsaw Massacre, which, yes, I believe at the time was just called either Head Cheese or perhaps Leatherface.

But what can you glean out of that game against Paraguay into this one?

There's two things I've sort of gleaned consistently the whole time.

And one is the, you know, you can feel the stakes, even little things.

I don't know if you saw it while you were over here, Adam, where when you go to watch the training and you only get 15 minutes, you know, the sides on the furthest side of the field that could possibly be put on, you know, you really test your eyesight and the strength of your camera lens when they're there.

So it's a real sense of smokes and mirrors and walk-up tension and and all that type of stuff.

And if they do allow a bit of open training, which they did the day after the Paraguay game, as soon as it becomes a little bit more than stretches and one-touch football, you sort of get frog-marched back into the media centre.

So you can tell the stakes are high, but any interaction we've had with the players, they've been terrific.

How is it for the Australians, you guys, with Popper?

But, uh, what can you glean f- out of that, uh, game against Paraguay into this one?

So there's, there's two things I've sort of gleaned consistently the whole time, and, um, one is the, you know, you can feel the stakes, even little things.

I don't know if you saw it while you were over here, Adam, where, um, when you go to watch the training and you only get 15 minutes, you know, the sides on the furthest side of the, the field that could possibly be put on.

You know, you really test your eyesight, uh, and the strength of your camera lens when, when they're there.

So it's a real sense of smokes and mirrors and World Cup tension and, and all that type of stuff.

And if they do allow a bit of open training, which they did the day after the Paraguay game, as soon as it becomes a little bit more than stretches and, you know, one-touch football, uh, you, you sort of get frog-marched back into the media center.

So you can tell the stakes are high.

So they're, they're good at keeping, uh, secrets.

that's true do you feel like that you you really wanted to do this because you really wanted to do documentaries or was horror something that you that you personally was like i i want more and more people to see how i'm seeing these things

Well, as a project itself, the idea came from Robin Block, who's the CEO and executive producer.

He's CEO of Creator VC, the company that makes these documentaries, and he's the executive producer.

And he had this great idea.

Because he was doing In Search of the Last Action Heroes, about 80s and 90s action movies.

And he's just like, how cool would it be if we did this for 80s horror movies? Because he loves 80s movies and 80s horror especially.

And he just thought, how cool would it be if we did just year by year, every single movie in concept.

i i don't have again my only complaint is that four hours isn't long enough but i understand from a practical standpoint you you guys you know that'd be a lot a lot of work but well

So now that you've got the formula kind of out of the way, what are the things that you're most focused on that you don't think about kind of the, you know, how to put this all together, but more so, what are you doing to continue to, you know, provide these just, you know, the same great content as before, but knowing that you don't have to worry as much about the formula? Are you reassociating in that time?

If anything, when you're covering a decade of material, there's just so much to tackle.

It's really just too much.

And so my biggest challenge is trying, I want to include everything, but that is not possible.

So I really have to say, well, what's the priority here? We did a survey where we had a lot of the backers and the audience and the horror community responded very, very, very, very positively.

In fact, it was the most overwhelmingly positive.

And when I say positive, I'm talking about just interactive.

And, um, I just say as someone who cares, we're immensely thankful.

Yeah, right

... th- this is, this is their training ground right there.

But even just the, the mainstream movies, you know, you got Taxi Driver and Mean Streets.

You've got, you know, Network.

You've got, uh, Dog Day Afternoon.

Uh, that was all grit.

That was all about the counterculture and the underdog, and the whole era was reflecting conspiracies, uh, lack of faith in government, post-Vietnam malaise.

No.

Some of them are people he's never met.

It's a party, uh, basically for the community here, but it's, uh, the invitation is open.

It was created with the idea of a, of a big jam session.

But then he realized those were some of his guests' favorites.

It occurred to me that they would be coming to town and maybe they'd be looking for something to do, and that was absolutely the case.

And so it was, uh, huge and a lot of out-of-town people.

Some of them are friends he's known for decades, some of them are people he's never met.

It's a party, uh, basically for the community here, but it's, uh, the invitation is open.

It was created with the idea of a, of a big jam session.

But then he realized those were some of his guests' favorites.

It occurred to me that people would be coming to town and maybe they'd be looking for something to do, and that was absolutely the case.

And so it was, uh, huge and a lot of out-of-town people.