David M Walker

Sand has called it the single biggest pro-corruption law in Iowa history, and he was not alone in his criticism.

While it was being considered by state lawmakers, among those who spoke out against the proposal were the National State Auditors Association, the Institute of Internal Auditors, and former U.S. Comptroller General David Walker, who served under both Democratic and Republican presidents.

Every government watchdog in America that weighed in on this law said this was going to increase waste, fraud, and abuse of tax dollars in Iowa.

All of them, Sands said at a campaign event in September.

Quote, There's absolutely no question it's a ramp-up effort.

It's a ramp-up of effort, and there's absolutely no question that there's an opportunity to use technology, especially artificial intelligence, in ways that didn't exist in the past, said David Walker, who led the Government Accountability Office as the Comptroller General in the Clinton and George W. Bush administrations.

But, he said, the figures the task force has cited are quote, assertions that have not been validated by independent parties.

Over the years, various inspectors general have struggled to quantify their anti-fraud work in broad strokes, as the task force has done, given the wide differences in how different agencies investigate cases and to measure impact, said Mark Greenblatt, a former inspector general for the Interior Department who once led the Council of Inspectors General.

I'm sorry, $2,500.

$25,000 was a number where 10, 15 years ago, we were talking like, my God, I talked to who was the former Comptroller General of the U.S.? David Walker, I think was his name.

And he was working with this one man.

who was running a portfolio that you can put $30,000, and that was a big deal.

Do you do you know what I'm talking about? Do you remember that?

Yeah, David Walker, former Comptroller General for government, said that repeatedly, said we have a concept.

There's a couple of things that we have to do constitutionally, one of which is we have to honor our debt obligations.

So so we cannot default on the debt.

keep the thing afloat.

But you're right.

According to David Walker, I haven't actually looked through the Constitution and found the chapter and verse, but David Walker has told me repeatedly in our conversations offline that we've got to honor our debt obligations.

Well, I think I remember, and we'll do some research on this, and that'll be another great webinar.

It's taking place as we go on today.

Also, Steve, something that you're going to be present for, the former Comptroller General of the United States, David Walker, is going to be attending a breakfast coming up here this week, right?

Yeah, it's exciting.

You know, as a former elected official, I'm doing a lot of media work.

And so the independents don't come out to vote.

And I think that it wouldn't hurt American politics to have more options on the table.

And David Walker is going to be talking about that.

Also, there's the forward party.