But in a patient with TMS, which are the type of patients that you see, what is the classic presentation and how are you able to help these people?

Well, the classic presentation would be somebody who has had a long history of pain and it could be a year, it could be three years, it could be 13 years.

I mean, I've seen people with very long durations.

They've typically seen both conventional alternative practitioners because when people have pain that persists, They don't just go to their primary care doctor.

They don't just go to an orthopedist.

They don't just go to physical therapy.

They'll see chiropractic, acupuncture, all types of treatments.

Yeah.

Richard Matheson told us.

Poor Grant Williams, that guy looked beat.

He nearly killed himself.

He was almost blinded by an arc light.

He was nearly electrocuted.

He was half drowned.

Oh, boy, did he work hard.

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