David S. Rohde

I want to bring in former ambassador to Russia and international affairs analyst Michael McFaul.

Also joining us, our senior national security reporter, David Rohde, who has some news that I ...

My favorite thing about having you on is like-

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First, I want to say that I think the free press is actually essential to national security.

And I'm grateful to live in a world where the David Rhodes exist and report on things like that.

Because if you think about...

The alternative from a national security perspective is much, much more dangerous.

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You can see this on MSNow.com. Look for David Rhodes reporting.

Everybody, thank you very much.

I appreciate it.

It comes as there is no end in sight or even a plausible off-ramp to his deeply unpopular war of choice with Iran.

Joining me now to discuss this and more, David Rohde, MSNOW senior national security reporter.

Rick Stengel, former undersecretary of state for public diplomacy and public affairs.

And Michael McFaul, former U.S. ambassador to Russia and author— Of autocrats versus Democrats, China, Russia, America and the new global disorder.

You got it.

All right, David Rohde is a national security reporter at MS Now.

April Ryan is the White House correspondent for The Contrarian and the author of the forthcoming book, Notes On a Backlash: When a Black Woman Goes Viral, and they both join me now.

I thank you so much to both of you for being here.

DHS was created in the wake of 9/11, and now 25 years later, all of that apparatus has been effectively turned on people in this country in terms of squashing and criminalizing dissent, fanning masked plainclothes officers all throughout our country to grab people from their landscaping jobs and from car washes and school bus stops, all to further Donald Trump's mass deportation agenda.

David Rohde is a national security reporter for MSNow.

His latest article examines the legacy of the world changing on that day.

It is titled A Marine and a CIA Operative on Their Lives in the Wars after 9/11, and he joins me now.

You know, people, like I said, should go read your piece today on MS.

Now, but also y- your account of what you went through, uh, that you wrote for The New York Times after, after, um, your escape is, is really, really remarkable.

Um, David Rohde, thank you so much for being here tonight.

Thank you, Jacob.

Among the dignitaries here today, Vice President JD Vance; four former presidents, Clinton, Bush, Obama, and Biden will be here; also, former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, Michael Bloomberg; and current Mayor Mamdani among those who will participate today.

Let's bring in here at our set at Ground Zero, MSNOW Senior National Security Reporter David Rohde.

David, um, a lot to talk to you about here.

Um, your story has traced this tragedy in so many ways.

Thanks so much.

Thank you, Willie.

MSL senior national security reporter David Rohde.

David, thank you.

Along with Joe, Willie, and me, we have the co-host of our 8:00 AM sta- hour, staff writer at The Atlantic, Jonathan Lemire.

MS now National Security reporter David Rohde, and managing editor at The Bulwark, Sam Stein is with us.

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