David R. Montgomery

I think I was kind of heading down the sort of holistic road a little bit.

The book that really changed my mind was David R. Montgomery's Growing a Revolution, the one with the round bale on the front.

He's a geologist, American geologist.

He's not a farming guy or anything like that, just looking at soil.

... we have to do this smarter.

And, uh, David Montgomery, the, the Dirt: The Erosion of Civilization book, uh, he said the...

most of the civilizations collapsed because of lack of soil health, except if they were on a floodplain, and then nature replenished those, those areas.

But once again, if you...