David Permut

Dude, I've got the guy.

I honestly, Bill, David, I have the dude.

Just let me call him." And then, yeah, so then I'm on the phone to him just explaining, "Oh, man, Mel Gibson's doing a movie about Desmond Doss.

Have you heard about him?" And he's like, "Yeah, yeah, the 48 hours in Okinawa." And I'm like, "Yeah, yeah, that guy.

Yeah

... and the tying knot scenes.

Um, and like Bill and David, so Bill, Bill, uh, Bill Mechanic and David Permut are the two producers.

And I start, it was after, like that day I'd hung out with them just with in the office thing and stuff like that, and um, when we'd done, we'd done like this um, like we'd sort of, they called me in and just go, 'cause it's like, "Am I gonna run round? This would be awkward if I'm doing that." Be like, "No, no, just come in here." So I'm sitting one of those like director chair things with Bill, with like David.