David Nordstrom

We're shooting without permits, just driving out on these dirt, dirt roads to nowhere.

And we're with m- uh, our buddy David Nordstrom, who's just, like, a really good hang, like one of the, one of, like, my best dear friends and a sweetheart and just someone who, like, it just calms my nerves to be around.

And so, like, the experience of doing that was just lovely and, and meditative and, and one of the best.

Le- and, and also, like, it wasn't as, like, daunting having to, like, orchestrate all the dynamics that go into that episode.