David Maisel

But they're not cohesive, and they're made by different studios as a hangover from that earlier strategy.

So what happens is a guy called David Maisel joined Marvel in 2003, and he basically pitches the idea, "Why don't we go to a bank, get a huge loan, and start making our own movies?" That's his, like, big idea, and it's kind of one of those steps things.

If someone...

They, they probably could have thought that in the '90s, but it wouldn't have happened.

Ralph Macchio.

You know, the likes of David Maisel, Kevin Mayer, that were, you know, corporate executives.

David Maisel, founder of Marvel Studios.

Massive.

Thank you.