David Kinnaman

Um, but in addition to looking at, okay, here are the reasons why people leave the church, Barna also wanted to say, "Okay, well, what about the people who don't leave? What about the people who stay?" There's a very small percentage of people who don't ever walk away from this church, and they stay, and they have this really good, amazing, vibrant relationship with God.

David Kinnaman writes about, "Resilient disciples express a feeling of intimacy with God, closeness that frequently seems lacking in other groups.

These data indicate that one of the keys to developing resilient faith and experiencing Jesus is growing youngs- people's belief that a real God really speaks to us, that He has something unique to say to our hearts and destinies." Now that we've looked at what the data says, why kids are leaving the church, why they're staying, let's talk about what we, as parents, can do.

Again, not to guarantee that our children will never walk away from the faith, not to guarantee that they will love Jesus with all of their little hearts, but to give them the best chance of success possible.

Only 36% of adults strongly agree that the Bible is totally accurate in what it teaches, down from 43% in 2000.

Barna CEO David Kinnaman put it in four words, engagement is outpacing conviction.

People are opening the Bible, they just don't know what to do with it and they don't know if they can trust it.

And here's the third number, while Gen Z reads the Bible maybe a few minutes a week, the phone gets six and a half hours a day.

He's a fellow with, uh, Barna Research.

With David Kinnaman, he wrote the book Faith for Exiles, which is how I first saw his name, and then we became friends after I, I read that.

But one of my favorite things about Mark is he was, uh, the executive director for Youth Specialties for years, and that's Mike Aquilina and all those guys that just turned the world upside down.

So Mark is one of these men who's been in the forefront, in the middle of, around the edges of cultural change and shift over the last decades, and it is a, a great conversation.

It was a better title.

Yeah.

So, uh, David Kinnaman, Barna, uh, Urbana, you're working with that.

You've got a position now also, you're working, uh, something just began.

And, well, a few months ago, I was doing some research for a series we did on Gen Z, and I was, uh, interviewing Dr. Jonathan Morrow.

He's with Impact 360, and he works very closely with David Kinnaman of Barna Research.

And in that research I was doing for the show, I ran across something that I, I hadn't known.

It kind of...

Hello and welcome to the Barna Faith and Culture Report.

My name is Ashley Lalonde and I'm here with my co-host David Kinnaman and we can't wait to dive into the stats with you.

On today's episode, we interview Pete Scazzaro and we talk about emotionally healthy success.

We can't wait to share this with you.

I would also say, too, there's some new data out, that I just...

Uh, you know, David Kinnaman is- he leads this...

He's the CEO of the Barna Group, and they have some data out that actually shows that pastors, uh, people in the churches, Christians are engaging in AI at a higher level than other faith groups and people of no faith, and pastors are more suspicious than their people are towards AI.

So there's actually...